Happy Jack

Jorge, I wouldn't think so as it wasn't something carried by troops in the field. While legal in some modern matches I wouldn't allow it if I were the MD. However this piece of equipment has not been brought up before and at the moment it would be up to the MD.

It is my opinion that the structure of the WBAS organization will not change and there are no WBAS TG's so I don't see them (me included) becoming involved. It is a SEPARATE sport from CAS. Just that headquarters will be handling all of the management of the sport. Maybe they were tired of us being so independent??

I received an email from Misty telling me a few weeks ago. I don't know exactly what all their plans are but the structure for WBAS will be identical to CAS as far as us becoming a ROC instead of a controlling committee. Also all state and above matches will be handled by headquarters as well as keeping track of instructor qualifications, etc.

Marshall Stone. There is NO change to the WBAS rule about rifles and shotguns leaving the loading table on the updates I sent to Tex last week. I do however expect since SASS Headquarters is taking over Wild Bunch effective Jan. 1 they might change some things on their own. Hopefully not until 2021 and not much.

I have known Bill Wilson for over 50 years. We used to shoot at the same club. It is the only thing he does that I and the the vast majority of 1911 experienced shooters disagree with. DO NOT USE THEM!!

I handled one at SHOT this Jan. Nice, but I wouldn't buy one for the money. No idea about the magazines but I bet they are private labeled.

It is important to remember that both POP and GAMM are NOT official WBAS side matches. They are offered by some clubs and the rules for each can vary. It is always fun to bring out and shoot other firearms but the POP and GAMM shoots are local and the rules may vary. There are NO Official WBAS rules covering these activities. Shoot them and have fun but unlike BAMM which IS and OFFICIAL WBAS side match where the rules in the Shooters Handbook must be followed these matches are at the local club's discretion.

I'm old schooll. Go with the long time proven bullets. 230gr H&G from Penn Bullet. Been shooting them for many years.

Any 1911 I have in 45ACP that I can come up with an excuse to re-barrel has a KART barrel. They are the best kept secret in precision ACP shooting. I don't think you will need to work on the barrel you have, just check your loads. What works in the Springfield will be fine in your other pistols. I shoot using 4 different 1911's and after problems over the years I finally resorted to running all fired brass through a bulge buster. Solves 99% of all ammo problems. (you can also run fired rounds through one if necessary but I don't do it unless absolutely necessary.

I am concerned that the LFC die is making the case mouth too small and probably crimping it enough that the round is seating too far in the chamber. This is a guaranteed way to break an extractor. I would try a slightly shorter OAL (seating the bullet shoulder in the case a few thousands further). AW's comment about no freebore is probably right in this instance.

In my opinion you need to just readjust the Dillon crimping die a bit. I am NOT a fan of the Lee crimp die. If you get too much crimp the round will not be headspacing on the case mouth.

I just weighted 42 samples from Mernickle. The heaviest one was 2.074 grams. The thickest material allowed as it was .246" thick. An outlier in the group and NOT a production part. A preproduction sample. That translates to .073 ounces. The committee makes NO statement as to how the pads can be attached but everyone I have had contact with is using contact cement. If a shooter decides to use a small screw they are responsible for the weight, however, I doubt it will make the magazine over 3 ounces. But, just like power factor, I would recommend NOT pushing the limits.

Boggus is right. FIRING that overloaded round is ILLEGAL. Simple as that.

I agree completely with the posts by Legendary Lawman and Boggus Deal on this matter. I do not however see a need to write another "rule". It is perfectly legal to overload your magazine in any firearm in WBAS. We don't care if you do so. HOWEVER, if you leave that live round in the chamber or fire it there are penalties already clearly spelled out. WBAS shooters Handbook January 2019 version 12.1 Page 20: SDQ A live round left in the chamber of a long gun Page 20: SDQ A cocked pistol with a live round in the chamber leaving the shooters hand. Page 26 Procedural .......overloaded rounds that are fired will be a procedural. Any targets hit with that ammo will be scored as misses. No adjustments will be made to the raw stage time.

Vicious the SG you are referring to is the model 25. It is NOT LEGAL for Wild Bunch.

I agree with Dusty Boddams and Legendary Lawman. Gloves as worn by Palma and 3 position shooters as well as some PRS shooters are outside the intent of allowable gloves. Those mentioned already as being acceptable are fine.

Modifying the trigger guard on a pistol is NOT listed as an "allowable modification" so therefore it would be ILLEGAL.

Just for your information, I (with help, usually Jim Miller) have done the WBAS chronographing at the Territorial match in St. George, UT and at EOT for the last several years. Every time I pull at least one shooter's bullets. Sometimes more that one at each match as the overall cartridge weight doesn't fall within the suggested range shown in the WBAS MD guide. They are ALWAYS different than what the shooter listed them as. Often 5-10 grains off. I have even had people claim to be shooting 230's in their ACP when they were shooting 200's. Every time a match chrono's they should weigh cartridges to ensure they are shooting what they say. Sadly, sometimes shooters get their ammo from another and just believe what they are told. This happened at EOT 5?? years ago and a shooter was DQ'd because the ammo wasn't what it was advertised as. I use a radar chronograph. Unfortunately many inexpensive chronos are inaccurate so I strongly suggest when working up loads to aim for about 165pf. The chronograph results are NOT APPEALABLE and the chrono in use is the official one for that match.

Just curious. Why would a person that reloads want to use only one powder??? Pick powders that provide the best performnce in each cartridge. Changing powder isn't a big deal. I have about 20 different powders in stock and after developing loads I use about 6.

The others can sometimes be hard to spot, but the tungsten one is so heavy that it can push a pistol over weight. If the pistol is close to overweight a magnet will spot the tungsten rod vs. the steel one instantly. I carry a small magnet in my guncart.

Chance, it is going to depend on the targets you guys set. If Action Target ones jacketed is fine. If a few old SASS Cowboy targets with soft steel it might be a problem.

This rule is an exact copy of the wording used in CAS. It is intended to allow the shooter to adjust position for stability but they must stay at the same spot. Not move within a designated shooting location. A SDQ was the correct call.

UNBELIEVABLE !! Sad beyond words. First Tom and now Fred. Things couldn't get much sadder. I knew him from long ago when we competed against each other with 1911's. Mere words can't express my sadness and feelings for the family.

It is with great personal sadness that have to announce the passing of my friend and legendary 1911 pistolsmith. He passed away today from complications of cancer and heart failure. It was my honor to make him a Wild Bunch Ambassador. He will be sorely missed and can never be replaced. :'( He, along with Bill Wilson, Ken Hackathorn, and Wayne Novak were all mentors to me. The loss is very personal. I wish the best for his family at this difficult time.

The requirement is for a solid trigger, not a lightweight/skeletonized one etc. We don't mentioned overtravel screws in the modern category either. So an overtravel screw in a solid trigger is legal for a traditional pistol.