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Hi all. I have been shooting CAS for about 9 years and am wanting to get starting in WB. Not many matches in my area this time of year to watch or in which to participate and learn so I am trying to glean answers to my questions from reading and watching WB shooting videos on YouTube. A couple of questions: It looks like shooters have the option of loading 1911 mags at their guncart OR the loading table. NO mag in 1911, of course until at loading table. Load table actions involve loading rifle and shotgun and inserting a loaded (5 rounds only) mag into 1911, but NOT racking 1911 until on the clock. Is it standard practice to have mag pouches on belt with loaded mags an…

Wild Bunch rules state that pistol mags have to be on the opposite side of the shooter's body from the pistol holster. I presume it is legal however to keep extra rifle rounds or shotgun ammo on the same side of the body as the pistol holster? Won't be any room left on the offside anyway if you are only using one belt. Is my presumption correct?

Besides at EoT and maybe Winter Range, are there any ever WB costume contests at State or Regional level matches? I know there are some GREAT CAS costumes that the men and ladies wear and is certainly part of the cowboy shooting fun for a lot of us. What about Wild Bunch? What costume might win or place or be recognized? Accurate representation of an early Army soldier? Anything else interesting? Just curious. Thanks.

On several occasions while watching Wild Bunch videos on YouTube I have seen where a competitor comes to the line with a Tommy Gun. I'm guessing this is something only done at the club level and never allowed at a match (nor do I remember there being a Tommy Gun in the movie...) as the gun was invented after the 1899 time frame Wild Bunch uses for its rifles. Looks like a heck of a lot of fun!

I noticed in another thread that the Shok Buff was mentioned. I presume that this is just the Shok Buff insert, and not the Shok Buff system. Are these prohibited, since they are recoil management devices?

I ran a search but did not see this addressed. My Model 12 has had a little attention from a local gunsmith but I'm pretty sure he left the springs alone. It takes more effort to cycle as compared with the two '97s I have owned so I am wondering whether the stock hammer spring can be shortened a little. Reliable ignition is more important to me than having the lightest and slickest gun on the range. That said, can I safely cut a coil or two?

Until I get set up to reload for 45 ACP and dial in my reloads properly I am wanting to find and use factory loaded ammo. An internet search does not turn up much available for WB in 230 or 200 LRN. Ultramax through Midway USA and Cabela's seems to be the best priced. Any problems with this Ultramax ammo in 230 gr LRN in terms of being reliable, clean/dirty, meeting PF, etc? A search did not turn up much. :'( except for maybe two accolades for Ultramax. Appreciate the help.

G'Day Cowboys and Cowgirls i am interested to know what is the most widely used recoil spring weight in Wild Bunch. is a lower weight spring better than standard government 16# for shooting WB?

Some folks like to use google and Wikipedia for their information. Some of us build 1911s. My future Wild Bunch 1911. There will be some very interesting internal technology in this gun!

Howdy my WBAS friends The Good is that Fire and Ice WBAS is on February the 17th is that there is still time to sign up on the cowtown website http://ccsa-az.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/2017-WB-FIRE-AND-ICE-APP.pdf The Better ya'll are comin to shoot with us ya'll get warmed up for WR - NO rain ya'll will have JT Wild is one of the match directors The Troll sorry to say, he'll be there too ;) Samuel B

Bordertown W.B. side match drew 44 shooters, 2 posses. I enjoyed watching some of the best compete, notably; J.T. Wild - GillyBoy - -Zona - - Garrison Joe - - Bobcat Brian - - & Claudia Feather, to name a few. Everybody was a winner! Four of us were stand alone W.B. Shooters as we didn't shoot the main Cowboy match for whatever reason. Anyway Thanks to the Bordertown B.O.D. for allowing us to do that. Blaze

I have a Norinco 97, I bought the 6 round conversion kit and it works good. I also have a 97 E model made in 1911, I didn't want to spend the money for a second 6 round kit, so I used a magazine spring from a Remington 870. The E model will just hold 6 rounds, by about 1/8 inch and it seems to work ok too with my reloaded shotshells. I don't know if factory shotshell ammo is shorter or longer than reloaded ammo. Can anyone answer that?

man is it ever dead as a doornail in here or what??

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What is the interest in Bolt Action Military Matches nowadays? It's grown from it's inception at the Comanche Valley Vigilantes to other clubs and has been included in EOT schedules. CVV runs frequent BAM matches, likely the most of any club. Which clubs are hosting Bolt Action Military Matches? Are these side matches after a Cowboy Main Match? Included in annual match? Included in Wild Bunch match? How many shooters are participating? How many rounds in a typical BAM match? Is there a limit on velocity, bullet hardness, or power factor? Is any club using BAM rifles during a WB match in lieu of the lever rifle, as a separate category? At the Texican…

Wild Bunch RO class on Sunday October 9th at the Wartrace Regulator Range (day after Tennessee State Shoot). You don't have to be a registered shooter to attend this RO class. Wild Bunch Range Officer Class You should be SASS ROII qualifed to attend. Please do not bring any guns. You also need to be familiar with the contents of the SASS Wild Bunch Handbook before class. Bring your well-worn, tattered and well-read book to class. Place: Wartrace Regulators Range Date: Sunday October 9, 2016 Time: 9:00 AM Contact: Sassy Teton Lady - 352-455-1457 or 1911cowgirl@gmail.com Cost: $30 Hope to see you there. Sassy & Woody

South of the Border - 2016 New Zealand Wild Bunch Nationals & SASS Regional

So I was doing some practicing this morning and was looking at my split times for a mag change. What is usually a good split time shooting Modern with both hands on the gun after the slide locks back? I know I need improvement in this area because I was consistently hitting 3.96-4.06 to drop and change mag, drop the slide and then next shot..

Was there any particular years that the flag on the carrier was used? Looked at a 1937 one that did not have the flag. Would like to know when they were installed. Thanks.

Have not shot cowboy in a very long time. Still a SASS member and have been lurking in the Saloon for many years. Been thinking of shooting Wild Bunch for a while now. A buddy of mine has a Model 12, 12 gauge shotgun,30 inch barrel, full choke, 2 3/4 inch chamber for sale at a very good price. Will this work for Wild Bunch?

Like most M12 shooters I have come to the opinion that a M12 works better with a cartridge guide (flag) on the carrier. The first lesson was that all those rough milling and machine marks on the carrier are there for a reason. The roughness slows down the incoming round until the hull can be ejected. Otherwise the round will catch the hull as it leaves the port and create a stove pipe. I polished mine and had to regrind it to make it rough again. The next lesson was that there are different carriers. My first carrier w/flag I bought off eBay and the second I robbed out of a 3" duck gun. While both my M12s worked, occasionally I would get a hull trapped by the inc…

What is a good BAMM rifle to buy?

How does the "insert image" button work? I see that some of you have figured out how to insert an image in the text of your post. How did you do that? So far all I have been able to do is attach a photo at the bottom that you have to click on. JFN

WB is now featured in a national magazine. This past April at the New York WB State match a writer from the magazine came to match to write a article on WB. He came both days taking pictures and interviewing the shooters. When I had my conversation with him he told it would be a very positive article and it was. Two thumbs up for American Cowboy Magazine for featuring one of the best shooting sports around. Nawlins