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Badge Pusher, my favorite is the one from Brownell's. https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/handgun-tools/staking-tools/1911-plunger-tube-staking-tool-accessories-prod79068.aspx

Thank you, Joe, for clarifying that now!

It is a handy tool to have!

Baltimore, as I mentioned earlier, I haven’t seen a need to tilt the gun. If anything, I probably tilt mine in the wrong direction by accident. If you’re running into chambering issues, it’s likely other problems. I’ll see if I have video of how a Model 12 should work. I have looked at the cascity site. Unfortunately, there is way too much misinformation over there, regarding WBAS and SASS. It’s worse than the SASS Wire, which is full of people who haven’t shot a SASS match in years, if ever.

I would also make sure the extractors in the bolt are clean and working properly. I find that I don’t need the flag Goatneck refers to but if I had Model 12 issues, my gun would get shipped to him to get fixed. I haven’t seen anyone “tilting” the guns one way or another but what do I know.

Thank you, HJ. A much better explanation than mine.

Yes, sir. That is the current interpretation as pointed out earlier. We are doing our best to rid the WBAS handbook of ambivalent and frivolous rules and penalties. The bodily oirfices and cleavage rules are there for other safety concerns and likely to stay. A lot of others are going away.

Baltimore, I'll glaly pay for a copy of that and for postage. Also, you may want to get in touch with Shell Stuffer and Back 40. They are our "Bois form Illinois". They are the WB Ambassadors for that region, fine shooters and good guys. Just don't tell them I said that last part.

I believe in the first and third reply, those with the final word on WBAS rules answered the question. Happy Jack, I think we found a few more rules we can write out of the handbook next year.

Abilene, per current rules in both sports, yes, if you can safely correct the situation while on the clock to avoid penalties, you may do so. However, for your original question, the simplest, safest and smartest thing would be to get a cartridge slide from one of the fine leathermakers that support this sport that holds a couple rifle rounds and 2-4 shotshells and avoid the confusion at a match.

Abilene, it is MY opinion that while it would be legal to carry it to the line that way and stage for possible use, see the top of page 15 in the handbook, it would not be legal to use it from the mag pouch during the stage. That being said, why would you give up a mag pouch for one shotgun shell? Carry a full load of magazine and the shell in a pocket to stage as necessary.

I guess my next question would be what part of WBAS would you like to see like a sport that failed? My point being there are reasons it went under and WBAS is still here and growing, albeit not as fast as I'd like. I firmly believe it has a lot more to do with the economy and life style of the populace than the rules.

i Would happily pay for a copy of that rule book.

No hurt feelings on this end, my friend. I want this sport to grow and value your thoughts. We may or may not always agree but here, we can have adult conversations about it.

Also, I’m searching for the Western Action Shootists Association you mentioned. Can you post a link for me? Thanks.

Not wanting to hijack Last Chance's post anymore than necessary, I wanted to hear more about your comments. I want to say I appreciate your enthusiasm for WBAS. Are you seeing clubs not following WBAS rules pertaining to equipment and costuming? Have you seen the costuming rules change dramatically over the last several years? Other than freeing up the firearms covenants some to allow better participation, how has the rules changed? Please don't take any of these comments as assaults, I just want to point out a few things and have an adult conversation. You mention allowing "modern"1911s "gamed" it too much. Well, it is a game. It is a competition, and like I told a friend a few weeks ago when she asked when did CAS get so competitive? My response was when they started using a timer. This is Wild Bunch Action Shooting. Its not a movie reenactment. It can't be. There would maybe be 8 stages to be shot over and over and over again. Kind of sounds like Steel Challenge and boring after a while. Allowing more modern 1911s allows a lot more shooters in who otherwise couldn't compete. Same with the Henry Big Boy lever action. And the Model 12 shotgun. Good running 97s are getting scarce and more expensive by the day. Allowing the Model 12 allowed more shooters. Did any of the rule changes, in any way, preclude you from shooting or costuming by restricting the way you had done it in the past? I look forward to hearing your answers.

Lost, the problem over there is that too many of the active participants hate WBAS and would be a nuisance. Some of them there, even moderators, treat WB worse than the main stream media treats Trump.

Chance, I believe what we're going to have to do is to put together a plan for the website, gather all the pertinent info and material, take it to the headquarters and basically stage a sit in until it gets done.

Hands, HJ beat me to your answer. We try to make all the books match and hopefully, will do so soon. Thanks for catching that error.

I like the parallel or hybrid just because I don’t flip live rounds as bad. I can’t say that one is better than the other for spreading. I’ve had all styles spread and have some of each that are any number of years old.

Still multiples of seven. Just trying to reduce as many penalties as reasonably possible.

These mags are made by Check Mate. Who also makes magazines for Colt to their specs. They are good magazines.

That’s exactly what it is...

In their infinite wisdom, Ca DOJ has a roster of approved guns that are allowed to sold new in the state. To get on that list, you must send a sample of every model you want tested to be approved. Each model costs better than $3000 to test. And by each model, I mean if you change the sights, it’s a different model. You change the finish, a different model. Compact or full size, different models. Most companies don’t want to/can’t spend the money to get that many guns approved..

Joe, I took screen shots of these posts and the one where you said it was perfectly legal to use a factory installed Cutts Compensator. Again, you've conveniently edited it here, after the fact, to not make it look like that's what you meant. But you didn't edit your post on the SASS wire.