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Anything with Model 97 on it! If you're wanting it for Wild Bunch, get a 12 and don't look back!

Promocop, there are several ways to possibly bring the weight into spec. First, the stocks on that gun are extremely heavy. Replacing them with some lighter wood or polymer ones would take a great deal of weight off. Second, if it has a full length guide rod, you could replace that with a standard spring guide and plug. Also, as mentioned, going to an aluminum or plastic mainspring housing will help. All of this could be done without permanently modifying the pistol. I'm not sure which barrel bushing it has but if it has one of the more modern, thick flanged one, going to a standard style one would remove a very slight amount of weight.

We'll find some kind of trouble to get into!

Texas, looking at the magazines on my laptop instead of my phone, I am still going to say those are legal.

Nellie Blue will be there at the match, along with Possum Skinner. I do not know when they will arrive. I won't until Saturday morning. I can't tell from the Kimber site but will try to dig deeper. As I said, if all else fails, I'll have plenty of magazines.

Texas Bart, I'm certain your mags are legal. The .020-.050 is nominal. Does the bottom of the mags look like a standard GI mag? I'll be at that match with plenty of spare mags. We will get you checked out before the match, my friend.

Texas, no dumb question. Please feel free to ask here anything, anytime. I'll try to answer theses two. #1 Stage calls for rifle and shotgun staged at the same position. Shotgun is fired first. Shooter runs to the position and picks up rifle, gets it to shoulder and levered before anyone catches them, you now have a Procedural penalty. #2 Yes, not only is that legal, it is probably the most preferred method. Keeps the spare ammo very handy and keeps the magazines to the offside of the body. Kirkpatrick and Mernickle both make slides like you are referring to. Hope this helps.

Thanks, Goatneck! Need to call you this evening! Got a question for you about SKBs.

Folks, just got back from the Legends Territorial Wild Bunch Championship hosted by the Dixie Desperados in St. George, UT. match Director, JT Wild, put on a great match. It was great fun! If you didn't make it, you missed out! Put it on your calendar for next year.

We are gonna miss you up there, WBT.

Hopefully, I can be David and not Goliath.

Will do, Happy Jack. On my list of topics.

Last reference I can find on slings is from 2012 and they were NOT legal on long guns. Either I am missing it or it is not in the latest WBAS Handbooks. Are slings legal on long guns?

Frenchy, Please don't take my comment as being critical of you. Believe me, I know how fast some folks are and you just can't catch them. Been there, done that! Personally, I would still give it a no call.

Personally, I would have stopped the shooter and let them restart the stage completely since no round had went down range. Cleared the gun, loaded a magazine and let them restart, after taking a breath.

Yeah, for a while, Win AA quality sucked! I had one where the base was crushed down one side like you'd crush a case in a sizing die. I am a bit more surprised at the high rate in the Federals. I'll tell you, it makes me wonder about the quality of all factory ammo, anymore, especially self defense. For every 100,000 AAs they make, they probably make a couple million self defense cartridges. Do they have the same failure rate?????

Went through 16 boxes last night of Win Low Noise/Low Recoil and Federal Metro. Had about 15% Federal failure and a 2% Win failure. One AA even had a split base....

Ah, but Garrison Joe, the 25, made from 1949 to 1954, isn't a Model 12 any more than a Yugo 48 isn't a Model 24 Yugo.

Looking forward to hear the answers to these, myself.

First, and I don't mean for this to sound smarta**ed, this isn't cowboy. Second, I truly believe the intent is for the magazine pouches on the opposite side of the body to be used and not pouches on the same side as the gun. AS GJ said, put a lighter in it. Put a folding knife in it. We both may be wrong but I see it as a non issue if it does not have a magazine in it.

Just my opinion but if you were at a match and it did not have a magazine in it, I would not say anything about it.

Allie, I sure hope WBAS doesn't go the way of CAS in the respect of big, close targets with spoon fed stages!! CAS is not a shooting match, anymore. It's a speed match. Not to belittle any of these people running sub 10 second stages, but that isn't truly shooting. WBAS, with smaller, further targets and challenging scenarios, tests more than speed. It tests your accuracy. It tests your gun handling skills. It tests your ability to navigate a stage to your advantage. That is why we don't get much more crossover from SASS. Doesn't have anything to do with a rifle. The same folks who say it's the rifle cost that keeps them from coming over will be the same ones complaining about the number of rounds fired in a WBAS match. If I didn't have an SO who wants me to shoot CAS with, I'd stick to WBAS exclusively. Boggus

Dog, The sling shot method is years slower than using the slide stop. If I get a chance this weekend, I'll film and time it to try and show the difference.

Okay. Yes, two different trains of thought. Some say the slide stop is used to lock the slide back and using it to release the slide is hard on it. It is a much faster method than using the sling shot method. If it wears the gun out, my opinion is that there is something wrong. Others WILL disagree. The trigger control part is good to learn.

At certain times, other 3gun matches start your pistol hammer down on an empty chamber with NO magazine in the gun. I've also had to clear the gun on the clock and reholster!