Boggus Deal

Dang, Silvertip! We're gonna miss your lovely bride! Oh, and you, too! Hate you can't make it!

The rules committee has already spoken. It's all in the rule book. I prefer to pull ammo randomly through out the match. Might be first stage. Might be last stage. I was a posse marshal at this year's Winter Range and was tasked with pulling ammo from a list of people, including myself. I handed my bag to Evil Roy to pull my test ammo at his discretion. Somewhere during the match, he asked for my ammo as I went to the loading table. I know my ammo will make power. I could probably back off my loads and be fine. It was good enough to win WR last year. I see no need to change it. As for consistency in testing, again, it's in the rule books on how to accomplish it.

Just one man's opinion but as long as we hold them in conjunction with another match, Wild Bunch will always be a side match and never grow like it should. I would like to see separate state, national and world championships. As at EOT this year, with it held a complete weekend before the cowboy match, there will be a low turnout because it will mean taking off more work for most people. At least at Winter Range, both matches are within the same week.

I think most shooters must have used their worst brass knowing they'd lose it. Jackaroo, I can guarantee that wasn't the case with me! I'm not foolish enough to take anything but the best brass I can to a national or world championship match. To risk losing a match of this level on a 15 cent piece a brass is just asinine! I would bet that the top 25% of finishers felt the same way. Boggus

Its with great sadness I announce the loss of Dave Berryhill. Dave passed quietly at his home last sunday morning at about 7:30 am. He was attended throuout by his wife. The following is the obituary his wife is posting, and has allowed me to post here. "David Wayne Berryhill aged 54 of Prosper, Texas passed away Sunday May 10, 2015 after a courageous battle with cancer. Dave was born May 26, 1960 in West Covina, CA to William and Joan Reina Berryhill. He is survived by his wife Lesa Mitchell Berryhill also of Proser and stepdaughter Carmen Hanney of Austin, TX . Dave is also survived by a sister Becky Steinfeld and brother Arley Berryhill both of Albuquerque, NM, and his two Dachshund daughters Greta and Lily. He was preceded in death by his parents and a sister Debra Berryhill. Dave was a retired officer with the Redondo Beach CA Police Force. Dave was a gunsmith and owner of Berryhill Customs LLC, he was well known for his work with 1911's. Dave's gentle disposition and loving smile will be missed." A lot of us 1911 shooters know who he was.

Grouchy, yes you are! If the Lee die you are using is that cone shaped one I have seen then once you use an M die, you'll throw the Lee ones away! The M die has a fairly long part that guides the neck and keeps it concentric, while a very slight step at the top expands the case just enough to allow the bullet to start squarely and not shave any lead.

The rifle is perfectly legal!! When you try to run it at match speed, it won't take very long for you to want to wrap it around the closest tree! Winchester 94s were designed for longer cartridges and normally do not run pistol cartridges very well.

Miss Allie, what do you mean more recoil? By us talking about a heavier bullet? WBT and I got off track talking about my hunting handguns but for Wild Bunch, I use a 230 grain bullet as I can push it slower and still easily make power factor. What that does, for me, and proven to me by J. Frank Norfleet, is that the gun doesn't jump as much as it does with a 200 or A 185 grain bullet. Less muzzle rise, faster next shot.

And we appreciate that, HJ! With very straightforward rules about modifications, it's also very easy to enforce them!

It's very obvious to timer operators and spotters after you shoot 5 rounds and don't have to reload or slide doesn't lock back. You reload with the slide closed, it's a penalty. You keep shooting without having to rack the slide, it's yet another penalty. No one has ever checked my magazines nor have I checked anyone's. As I said, it's pretty obvious very quickly.

Then they need to up the power factor.

Gene, I can see a dueling tree having to be reset each time so that all targets are one side. However, a hostage doesn't make a difference to me what side it's on.

Allie, darling! I only know of two people to ever clean a WB match and I ain't one of them! A monthly match, it may happen but a major match is doubtful. Silver Tip shot WR clean this year and JT Wild shot EOT clean a couple years ago.

A Barney Fife is a magazine with one round in it.

But guaranteed that sometime, somewhere, you are going to reach for a full mag and end up with one in the gun with only one round in it.

Around 575............

Yeah.... Nothing like the 435 grainers out of my 500 Linebaugh.

230 grain are less recoil than 200............ I have shot some 300 grain in 45 acp but in a revolver. Not sure I can get them to feed in a bottom feeding, brass chunker!

Yes, the weight restrictions are for all categories. As to the reasons, extra weight equals less recoil.

My opinion, and its worth exactly twice what you paid for it, is there should be some small and far targets. And some big and close targets. And some small and close targets, And some big and far targets. Some flyers. Some knock downs. More pistol and shotgun and less rifle. Some challenging scenarios but not brain teasers that are P traps. Lots of transitions. Lots of movement. A lot of freedom for the shooter to choose from where to shoot and in what order to shoot guns. Just a few of my thoughts, Allie.

Brother, didn't take them as negative. Just wanting to know how to improve it.

Desert Pete, I'm sorry you felt our posse was tense. I certainly didn't want anyone to go away from that and not feel they had the best time ever. Please feel free to PM me or post here anything you did not like as I would like to see if we can address it in the future. You do have to remember, Winter Range is the National Championship of Wild Bunch and not only did we have the overall winner on our posse, we had two past winners and a couple who could have won this year. People are going to take it a little more serious than a lot of other matches. Again, please feel free to PM me, call me 505-220-4922, email me tboggus@hotmail.com or post here what ever we can do to make it more enjoyable experience.

WBT, some folks are fast and some folks are halfast.........

If it has a guide rod, replace it with GI type parts. Lighter stocks. Aluminum or polymer main spring housing.

A BIG thank you to Tom and Two Dot for doing all of the work! As to the specifics, I would guess most of the pistol bullets weigh 230 and run around 725-750 fps. Second most popular would be 200 at a little over 800 fps. This is just speculation as I have not polled folks or run the chrono for a major match. However, I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express once and chronographed my own ammo a LOT.