Happy Jack

SWEET !!! My guess from looking at that barrel bushing and hammer the lockwork is far from "stock". ;D

IF Montana Bullet works has a bullet you can use I highly recommend them. They are about the only commercial caster that sells bullets of match quality. I have bought both 38-55 and 45-70 bullets from them over the years.

A few things to think about: #1. SASS is the ONLY shooting organization on the planet with SDQ's. Every other shooting sport only has MDQ's or nothing. The thought was that a SDQ was worse than a MSV but should NOT remove the shooter from placing in the match if they did really well the rest of the match. Do I think it is a good system?? NO, but it will NOT change. It is impossible to come up with a time for a SDQ that is fair for all types of matches. In matches such as EOT Misses + 150 is an automatic MDQ for placement. At other matches where stage times are on average much longer it might work. Remember the miss +30 came about when average stage times were in the 35-45 second range. In their attempt to be "nice" to shooters SASS totally screwed up the penalty issue. #2. For many years there has been much more of a clamor to score SASS matches within Category than any other way. Stage Points allows that. Total time actually does not. #3. I have been personally opposed to Overall winners forever, BUT SASS recognizes them in CAS so the same for WBAS. It is interesting AGAIN that SAS is the only shooting sport on the planet that recognizes BOTH Category winners and Overall winners. Any scoring system that is correct within Category will give different results when everyone is placed in a pool to come up with Overall placements. #4 Stage points does give more weight to stages with more "opportunities to miss" so it is more fair in that respect. #5. When CD Tom transfered the program into the SAS Match Management system he made a number of mistakes. Some were corrected but not all. That has resulted in messed up results that had to be corrected the last 2 years at both WR and EOT. Aces only has one known problem and it is with SDQ's but it can be manually overriden.

Tully, we changed the wording a few years ago for the reason GJ mentioned.

Just back from 10 days in Michigan. Wild Bunch scoring has NOT CHANGED at this time. However we do not own SASS so they may make a decision for us.

Since I NEVER look at posted scores at the end of each day I wasn't aware that points were being posted instead of actual stage times. I will see to it that is changed next year at EOT. Shooters TIMES should be posted NOT points. Also probably only the shooters SASS # instead of their names will be posted with the times.

I have ALWAYS been opposed to an "overall winner" when you have categories. SASS venues are the only ones in the world that have BOTH category winners and overall winners. Every other shooting sport has only one or the other. My position is not shared by most of those in charge however.

It is all very simple. When you score WITHIN category (in this case fewer than 6 shooters) a SDQ is HUGE and moves a shooter who won 6 of the stages well down in the results. THEN when you decide to re-score the results with everyone in the same pool (80 shooters) to get overall the SDQ becomes less significant and the OVERALL points scored based on the performance within the large pool moves the shooter to the top. That happens with ANY scoring system that allows scoring within category and then re-scores the total shooters in a larger pool to get the overall top shooters. If you use total time or Rank points and score within category and then re-score for overall it can happen. If you score only overall and then pull category placements out of the results the shooters in EVERY other category affect the shooters placement. You can't have it both ways. Either score within category and then overall and get different results occasionally or score overall and let other shooters affect category placement.

You may shoot what you wish, BUT, I will NOT shoot the poly coated bullets in my guns. Just the opinion of an old narrow minded chemist who has been shooting matches for over 50 years.

I assume that the Sniper match will be lead bullets only?? Since it is shot on the old SASS buffalo targets that are soft steel??

Chance and Bubba are finishing the stages and sending them for review. I think the 450 rounds is the TOTAL for all 3 guns. I haven't received the stages yet but I can assure you that the pistol average will NOT be 37.5.

I also go thousands of rounds between cleanings of my 1911's. I have only used WST powder for at least 20 years in 45ACP loads. It became available to the public in the early 1990's and is the first choice of many pro shooters for 45ACP loads. I also use only Penn Bullets. 230gr H&G. Never a malfunction or an accuracy problem if I do my part. I think the red oil from Brownells is repackaged Lucas. It is really good stuff.

There was a small spinoff called ZOOT Shooting that was started by Bat Masterson in CO. They use a Thompson SMG in their shoots. I don't know if it is still active.

This issue has been discussed with the SASS Board of Directors. They will not be allowed at a sanctioned (State and above) shoot.

It could be slightly modified in a number of ways to make it PART of a course of fire. You need to drop the round count to 5. Perhaps 2-1-2 on the targets. Starting facing uprange would be OK if it were the initial starting position for the COF since the shooter would have time to turn before charging the pistol. I have shot the E P hundreds of times in practice and at IDPA and IPSC/USPSA matches. I have never heard of it being used at a WBAS match though.

J Frank Norfleet has been named the new Ambassador for the area Boggus Deal formerly handled. He is a NM native and well known and respected in the area. He will do a great job and please support him in any way possible.

I just got back from SHOT. Met with Evil and Bubba. As was posted by Pecos in 2011, external extractors ARE LEGAL in the Modern category. They are NOT LEGAL in the Traditional category. It is so seldom brought up that it has never been mentioned in the rules as an allowable modification in the Modern category. I will make a not to include it in the 2018 Handbooks.

It would NOT be legal in Traditional. The Committee is meeting next week and I will bring it up for discussion.

I have pulled hundreds of "mistakes"over the years with an impact puller and I have always reused the primer if it was seated correctly without any problems. Your experience my be different.

Back 40, have you tried Coon Creek???

Jackaroo, That sounds fine to me. Have fun with it.

I agree 100% with Boggus.

Viscious, since you are using a shock buff I hope you are in my category ;D ;D ;D

Boggus, good luck on that project. The man who taught me the little machining I know (and have forgotten almost all of it) was an absolute genius mold and die maker. He was a warrant officer in WWII and as such wasn't issued a weapon. He made his own 1911 from scratch except for the barrel which he scrounged. Said it was the hardest job he ever did. I recall him saying there was one cut he couldn't do on a mill or lathe and had to use a shaper. Of course with CNC and EDM machines now it will be easier but still pretty difficult I imagine. hope to see you at SHOT.

I think the vast majority use a standard 16# spring. I am currently running a 14# progressive but I don't think it is necessarily better. Some who lack hand strength do use a lighter mainspring to make initial charging of the pistol on the clock easier.