J. Frank Norfleet

If it's not specifically listed, it's prohibited. JFN

Big Boston, That is the mold I use exclusively for my 1911. Literally cast and shot 1000s of them. I'm on my second set of molds. I'll run three of 6 cavity molds at a time so two are cooling while one is being filled. I shoot paper so I can recover the bullets from my private range. And, a local tire store saves wheel weights for me so I have continuous supply. If you have to buy your lead, I don't think it is economical. I like the tumble lube molds so I don't have to size. I buy generic Lube-Alox on eBay, $20 a quart shipped. Same stuff but much cheaper than the Lee brand. Almost no leading, my pistol will gum up and stop running before the barrel will lead up. JFN

Interesting video, been posted here before. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=491378850966888 JFN

When I started out I used dummy rounds to learn manipulation skills because I too was told not to let the slide drop on an empty chamber. I'm not sure it makes a difference, but I'm not a gunsmith. Pulling the trigger and letting the hammer fall on an empty chamber is not an issue. My timer can be set for a second beep. So I practiced my draw with dummy rounds. Draw on the beep, rack the slide, be on target and press the trigger before the second beep. The timer adds pressure as you move the second beep to your desired speed. The second drill I used dummy rounds for was mag changes: pistol with slide locked back and an empty mag inserted, mags with dummy rounds on my belt, hold the pistol on target as if you have just fired the last round, at the beep change mags, come back on target and press the trigger before the second beep. I've made my own, they get beat up real fast. I've used the orange plastic ones from Brownells. They also get beat up pretty quick so don't try to make them last too long and watch for little pieces of the plastic rim getting in your pistol. A-zoom might be more sturdy but I've never used them because they are pricey. JFN

Trooper, There used to be a probation on loading a loose round in the pistol. It was removed a couple years ago by the Rules Committee as an unnecessary penalty. (They are doing a great job BTW!) The Mernickle rig used to have ACP loops on it. That is a waste of space unless you have a rifle converted to ACP and I can't think of a good reason to add them. There is a good reason to not load a single round in your 1911 or any other semi-auto pistol. When the slide strips the round off the magazine the rim of the round slides under the extractor as it enters the chamber. With a single round, the extractor is forced over the rim of the already chambered round. It breaks pieces off the edge that grabs the rim and eventually will not extract. JFN

Thoughts? 1 My Mernickle cowboy holsters are fully metal lined. 2 Isn't the US Calvary 1911 holster "Pershing model" a drop design? Especially if you use the hanger. The holster in question is the same holster that former rules committee member Crazy Kurt shot with before he quit shooting Wild Bunch. As for the hangers, I'd throw them away. But I have seen a couple "buttless" cowboy shooters use them. I guess it would depend on your shape. JFN

This is a great move. Everyone says what a great WB match Bordertown has. I have never been able to justify the drive for a one day match. But now that it is 8 stages and two days . . I'll have to put it on the schedule for next year. I just had shoulder surgery so this year is out. Tombstone is a great place to shoot, let us know how it went. JFN

Just because it is a full length guid rod doesn't mean it is illegal. Full length guide rods are legal in Modern but not in Traditional. Tungsten and recoil reducing guide rods are illegal in both. JFN

Could that be because most of the WB shooters have given up on the '97 and gone to a M12? :D JFN

Sent you a PM. JFN

Abilene, I don't think there were any clean shooters. JFN

I'd say you can file a lot away. Here is a photo from the WB RO course of a legal beveled mag well. Notice it is cut into the mainspring housing. JFN

Well for those of you that didn't come, you missed one of the best WB matches ever shot. The stages were fun to shoot, you could shoot them how you wanted and distances were perfect. Here are the results as I remember them. Overall: Last Chance Morales & Idaho Six Gun Sam Modern: Last Chance Morales Sr Modern: Evil Roy Traditional: CN Double Sr Traditional: Alaskan Lady Modern: Idaho Six Gun Sam Sr Lady Modern: Second Fiddle Sue Lady Traditional: Lady Jane Sr Lady Traditional: Serenity I haven't had this much fun shooting a WB match in years. But, there was some sadness, I sure missed Goatneck. JFN

Posted some WB guns on the SASS Classifieds. You can see them here https://forums.sassnet.com/index.php?/topic/288812-for-sale-at-eot/ JFN

I wanted to push this to the top again. So far no one has signed up. If you are attending the class I really need you to let me know ahead of time. And you need to download the material and read it before the class. JFN

This is way too sad. JFN

There will be a Wild Bunch RO Class at EoT on Tuesday, June 18, after the Wild Bunch Match. If you are interested in attending send me a PM so I can send you the details.

I really think that at this point I would be wasting my time trying to get a point across that may help recruit new WB shooter so what I am getting here is the upcoming scoring systems (Practiscore) will just show numbers that mean nothing to the new shooters and that the powers that be or stuck in their way and will not change something that would be so simple to do. I am done Thank you! Flash, That is a red herring argument. USPSA uses PractiScore and a similar scoring system. It's not causing problems for them. In fact the local USPSA club that started last year at Founders Ranch ended the year with 20 to 30 shooters twice a month. Looks like they'll have even more for this season. No problems with the scoring system there. SASS on the cowboy side is the only major shooting sport that uses total time. Everyone else uses something like Stage Points. Shooting sports are growing. Your argument is simply not true. JFN

Match DQ for scoring from using illegal equipment. Page 21. JFN

Flash, Not even in Total Time do you get that information. If you look at the final scores for Cowboy at WR and EoT, all that's given is stage time after penalties are included. So I don't know why you are so critical of our scoring system. But, if you need that information to analyze here is how you get it. Every major match I attend (state, regional, WR & EoT) posts the raw times at the end of the match for shooters to dispute. Every shooters time, misses and penalties are listed by stage without any placings. Take a picture of it for your records. Then when the final score is posted you will know how it came about. At our local matches we use PractiScore on my phone. I send out the final score to all the shooters and if a shooter wants the raw times I'll send it to them. So ask the scorekeeper of your local club to send you the raw times. I bet the information is available even if your club is using Aces or the SASS scoring. JFN

Thank you August. One thing I'd like to add. In total time the shooter with a DQ is penalized twice, i.e. double jeopardy. Not only does he receive a no time for his DQ, in order for that not to lower his total time, an astronomical number of seconds is added to the total time. That's two penalties. With stage points he gets the zero for the DQ he earned and keeps shooting. JFN

Flash You are wanting the scoring system to do for you what only you can do. Even if the scoring system told you your misses, it wouldn't tell you why you missed. Part of the shooting cycle is seeing where your sights are when your gun goes off and calling the shot. And by calling the shot I don't mean hearing the ding or seeing the hit on the target, I mean seeing where the sights are when the pistol fires and goes into recoil. I've been working on this a long time. The last WR I had 4 misses and the day after the match I could "see" the sight picture on all four misses. Even now I can see three of those; a front sight floated over the top of the target, firing before the sight was on target and nothing because I blinked and pushed out at 8 o'clock. When I saw each one I immediately corrected for the next shot. No such thing as being too busy to know how I was shooting. As a posse marshal at WR I was busy. But when I stepped to the line I gave the stage all my attention. And when I went to the unload table I could tell you everything about how I shot the stage. Anytime I let myself be distracted I shoot crappy and usually get a P, MS or a DQ. I do like the scoring system, it makes the sport much more competitive than total time. Stage Points keeps a top shooter in the game even when they get a stage DQ. I can't tell you how many matches I have seen good shooters win even though they had a stage DQ. That means that they shot well enough on 11 stages to beat shooters that had scores on 12 stages. Total time knocks the shooter with a DQ out. Which means the next guy wins by default, not because he shot better. I don't want to win like that. No I'm not a Chance, Capt. Sam or Boggus Deal. But I can compete with myself. Every time I shoot I want to see my sights, concentrate on the trigger and call every shot. If I miss I want to correct that before the next shot not after the match. Just my opinion, JFN

Go with what Happy Jack and Goatneck said! Lighter bullets have more recoil when you make power factor. So stick with the 230 gr and WST. JFN

I shoot both and see no advantage for our game. To agree with Dusty, it is easier to clear a bad jam if you don't have one. JFN

Where are you located? Sent you a PM. JFN