Garrison Joe

How many sporters you suppose still have the mil sights on them? That's the big problem. Most were upgraded substantially to either scope only or a peep receiver sight. Makes them a whole new category.

For a governor sweep, I'd set 5 targets. 1 1 3 1 1 Three governors between the bars. Or Set the center target back 2 paces from the rest of the array. Then ... Three governors behind bars.

The usual Wild Bodie Tom spring and follower to allow 6 shots in the tube is made for the Win 97 (specifically, the IAC imports need it the most). If you need one for the 97, see Uniquetek - http://www.uniquetek.com/product/T1413 But Tom also now makes a spring and weighted follower for the Mod 12 - Uniquetek - http://www.uniquetek.com/product/T1528 And, yep, Nu-Line has lots of Model 12 parts and even does service work on them. But, if all you need is a new mag spring, the Rem 870 mag spring works fine and is easy to find. Shorten to hang 4 inches of the uncompressed spring out of the end of the mag tube when no end cap on the tube. (Then take that M12 and go shoot a few Southern Illinois hickory-fed fox squirrels for me, will ya? Yummm, chicken-fried) Good luck, GJ

Once again, the 1911 shows that it runs ammo very differently depending upon what gun you're shooting it through. Lyman handbook shows a 230 grain slug loaded on top of 4.0 WST to make 775 FPS GS got: This reinforces what WB shooters have known for a good while - You MUST check your 1911 loads over a chrono at similar conditions to the match you will be shooting, or else you need to at least try to hit a 165 PF so you will have some wiggle room when you get to a match! Good luck, GJ

"Standard" 20" barrels on my three IAC 97's. Love 'em. Good luck, GJ

There is a third way that I have proposed to the WB committee that guarantees (mathematically) to keep the category rankings straight and still allow some hope of declaring an overall champ who makes sense. Do the stage point scoring on each category (separate from all others). Take the top male and top female shooter in each category and figure a "fraction of best shooter" total times. Multiply each (male or female) shooter's stage points in category by that (male or female) adjusting factor and compare all the adjusted stage points. Put all shooters into that adjusted point order. You have an overall that keeps all shooters in a category in their same order, but allows comparisons between the various categories. It went no where last few times I suggested it. Oh well. It would have made for a clean result this EOT, I am pretty sure, but I don't have access to the total time numbers for shooters to actually check it out. It is a REAL abomination that we do not publish the stage times for each shooter, just the stage points. As long as we continue that practice, no one but the match director and scoring folks will ever know how to do this better!

Hey ya, Back 40. You didn't warn me that Shell Stuffer and you were out at EOT to CLEAN UP on us western boys! ;D Ok, the range of serial numbers on 1903 Springfields where the heat treat was not real well controlled, and some receivers end up brittle, was below ABOUT 810,000 on a gun made at Springfield Armory. From a pretty definitive source of that info (CMP): http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=81770 Temperature control via pyrometer rather than eyeball started at serial 632,826. I'd feel good trusting this number to be the low end of what I would use. This was from: ttps://30eca00a039f-002391.vbulletin.net/forum/military-rifles/109-springfield-1903-serial-number-date-ranges And Rock Island Armory guns were considered weak/brittle below below 285,507. IF you feel compelled to shoot a low serial number, you might want to keep pressures down at about 40,000 psi. Note that the below-810,000 or 285,506 serial numbers are not allowed to be fired in CMP authorized matches. Good luck, GJ

(A lot of this confusion for the initial scores released from EOT was due to data entry error. Watch out for tempests in teapots.)

Base problem - they allow a system level error message to go to an end user's account. Root problem - yep, an upgrade is probably needed to fix a known database errors that lots of users of the Simple Machines forum software have probably been reporting. Perhaps one of the WB moderators will see this and ask the system admins to take care of this. Good luck, GJ

Well, that 4.4 grain load will be STIFF. Hodgdon's max load is 4.3. Ouch. Your 4.0 grain load should be plenty. If your gun is like Hodgdon's test gun , that load will make 775 FPS, or 178 PF. good luck, GJ

Hi-tek is a thermoplastic polymer plastic, from what I can get folks to talk about. At least, some sort of plastic. Which isn't all that new - S&W made nyclad bullets in the 1970s' (nylon coated) Plastic is a long ways away from that boron nitride coating. Good luck, GJ

EOT is apparently on track to have its largest WB match ever starting Saturday. WR had it's largest WB match ever last February. Both get advertised heavily, both are conducted as stand-alone WB matches, with their own awards. Both totally separated from the Cowboy match so pards can easily shoot one or both. Maybe it's that folks won't shoot WB unless they have to pay extra and come on another day? :o ;) Just joking. I think it's the visibility and promotion of WB that suffers at individual clubs. Many Cowboy club officials seem unwilling to even talk up a WB match at their own facility. Good luck, GJ

And before it got relabeled by Winchester, with perhaps a very minor tweak of the additives, it was branded as Winchester 452AA. Shot tons of it in trap loads in the 1970s, as well as in 1911 cast bullet loads. Good luck, GJ

Usually 4.4 4.0 grains of WST works to give 170 PF with a 230 grain lead bullet. And 4.7 grains with a 200 grain slug. But each 1911 shoots a loading to slightly different velocities, so chrono it. It's the bullet lube that I have to clean out - WST burns clean enough that I don't find much powder fouling. Good luck, GJ CORRECTED the 230 grain load!

Oh, WOE-bble is me! Maybe you can speed it up this year and I won't hit even one. ;D Clem - whatever help I can give you on BAMM, let me know. Good luck, GJ

Sure, holster covers plenty enough of the slide. Good luck, GJ

Heck, Founder's Ranch IS my home range, and I don't get to shoot those stages either. ;D Good luck, GJ

"Ahead of time" and "posted" - hmmmm. No to either part of the question. WB stage booklets at EOT get handed out when you pick up your registration packet beginning on WB warm-up day (or even the first day of the WB match). They are printed. Not posted on any SASS site. Walk to bay. See 'em - read 'em - shoot 'em. ;D Good luck, GJ

Haven't seen just a total stated before to someone asking about how much ammo to bring - so I was going along the line of thought that 450 was the pistol ammo count (the largest volume we shoot in WB matches). If 450 is pistol plus rifle plus shotgun, then it will be a little lighter loadout than what I was expecting. Always helps to see a three-number set to prevent confusion. Good luck, GJ

That would be WAY more than ever shot at EOT or WR. If you are intending to try that on for size, you'd be wise to let folks know they will need MORE MAGS, as well as more ammo. Well before the match. Good luck, GJ

As stated, your plan would be illegal at SASS sanctioned matches. Learn how to slide your pouch slides together so you have no space between them. I use Mernicle 2-mag-pouch-per slides. The design is such that the slide ends can overlap with a little persuasion, and the pouches almost touch. Then practice. I know I have long arms, but I can comfortably reach to a pouch just behind my my right hip with my left arm. I''ll bet you can get at least to the middle of your back. Which is as far around as is legal. And unless you are smaller than a 34" waist, you can easily get six mags on your belt from navel to spine. Otherwise, strap on a shotgun belt and in a clear spot on THAT belt, slide on one or two double pouches. Good luck, GJ

Here's my HO - No need to segregate cases and bullet weights when down at 1600 FPS with cast bullets. Cast or buy good quality slugs. Use careful loading techniques, especially with getting a nicely expanded case mouth that won't damage the slugs. Find the load your rifle likes. Then practice hard. Shoot all sorts of ranges. Write down in your dope book what you find for elevation and wind hold-offs every time you shoot. Shoot positions, Shoot in wind. Shoot so you know how fast you can go and still clean easy, medium and hard target sizes. In other words, shoot as if you are "Sniper, First Class, One Ugly Dangerous." None of that takes lots of benchrest type loading skill or equipment. Good luck, GJ

Pretty easy to estimate - 12 regular and 4 warmup stages 27.5 pistol rounds 10 rifle rounds 6 shotgun rounds per stage Then add whatever your safety margin is. I'll spot you extra ammo if those numbers don't get you all the ammo you need. Good luck, GJ

Nickel steel is the standard steel for barrels for a gun made up to the 1930s, for sure. If the gun works well, you got a nice one. It will take modern loads well. No steel shot, no short magnums. Otherwise, load 'em up. Good luck, GJ

Sure, I remember SweetShooter and all the hooplah with which it was introduced. Didn't trust it then (to live up to it's hype). Suppose if it had been ALL THAT, we would still be hearing about it. Was it OK? Well, about like other bore cleaners. Was it great? No. So many things introduced to the shooting industry by folks without much track record fall into that group. And half the things introduced by those WITH a track record, too. Lucas Oil - been around for years, just not real heavily advertised. When I run out of my existing oils, I'll try some. Until then, I'll apply a little oil and a little grease where they are needed when I clean a gun. I don't believe in trying to extend periods between cleanings by just applying a lube, though. I've found a clean and lubed gun to be more reliable than a dirty and lubed gun. Good luck, GJ