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Kingsnake has done both my 1911's with these. They're great

Mine run 15 recoil, 19 main. You can easily tell if you're sprung correctly. Fire a couple mags of your match ammo from one spot. Look for the center of the pattern of ejected cases. Step that off from your shooting position. If closer than 5 feet, you are sprung stronger than needed. (results in harder slide pull than needed, and can get to where you get a failure to eject) If pattern is more than 10 feet away, you are too lightly sprung (can batter the frame and slide). And the recoil and main springs usually "balance with each other" best with the recoil being about 3-4 pounds lighter than the main. The mainspring bore in the grip housing often needs honing to remove the roughness from factory machining. good luck, GJ

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Dang, sounds like a great match. I almost wish I had shot it. Oh well.

FJT had some good comments in the WB-EOT thread. I always expected that State level and above, certainly National or EOT matches to be challenging. In the past, the ones that I have competed in, they had their challenges, some more than others. After most "Big" Wild Bunch matches, I am mentally fatigued. I, and I have heard others say, that Wild Bunch is more fatiguing and difficult that Cowboy Action, and that the latter seem easier after a Wild Bunch match. More targets, more difficult targets, more control needed for the firearms due to the Power factor, more brass to retrieve, and more movement on tough stages have made it more challenging. Then you add in more equipment/ammo failures and often more penalties to add to the situation. Challenges abound. Perhaps for some, these aspects are too daunting; some want to be entertained with less of the above. It will be interesting to see how having a challenging shooting sport can mesh with having an entertaining shooting sport.

15 recoil. 17 main.

Simple answer is - yes, a 38 Spl rifle will be legal, especially since you already have it. And - Yes, current PF minimum is 60 for Rifle. If you need to access the handbook - it's at: SASS Rule Handbooks page Welcome to WB! GJ

Well, it is called Wild Bunch ACTION SHOOTING! If I want entertainment, I’ll turn on the movie and watch it. For me the fun is in the challenge. Figuring out how I can shoot a stage to the best of my abilities. What can I do to better myself. I’ve said for years that WBAS isn’t for everyone. Neither is benchrest shooting, NASCAR racing or brain surgery.

Number your mags so you can identify any problem mags. +1 on case gauge. +1 on Bulge Buster for rounds that do not fit case gauge. +1 on knowing how to clear malfunctions. Be safe and have fun.

Howdy, Dave; I am pretty sure they did believe that they were shooting a true WB match. It may not have been to their taste. That's a subjective evaluation, to be sure. They had only shot a few matches prior to this and wanted to see if they would enjoy it as much as their local matches, on the Big Stage. "I was working all the time" was a reference to the amount of concentration and effort that the match required. Once again, tastes may vary, but they didn't feel there were any stages which they could relax a bit and run their gun as easily as they wanted. Hope that provides a bit of clarification. Cheers, FJT

They absolutely are slower with the lighter bullet. Having spent way more time and money testing it, the 230 at 700-725 fps is the way to go. Anyone want my leftover 250 gr bullets I was trying to see if they were worth it….

Thank you, sir. Got tired of breaking pins and figured there had to be a better way. Best, Boggus

Just wanted to close the loop here. THANK YOU to everyone that directed me the @Boggus Deal firing pin solution! Got mine in the mail today and 10 min later was out test firing it. What a great solution! I'm all set now and the M12 is much smoother. NOTE: I did leave the bolt lock/retaining lever installed as I really don't notice it interfering with the action at lease on my M12. Ready for my next WB Match! Totes

Regardless of how well tuned your 1911 is or how well you reload your ammo, knowing how to safely and quickly clear a jam is not something to be overlooked. Things happen and I've seen far too many newer shooters struggle with what to do when it happens. Going to slide lock, manually pulling mag from the mag well, clearing a FTF safely and indetifying what can't quickly be fixed should be learned/practiced. When things decide to go wrong, it can really eat up time fixing it. Totes

Practice, practice,practice and then also practice for the worst. Be able to clear jams and such safely and quickly. Test all your magazines to be sure they feed and release freely. Then practice, practice, practice some more. Get someone else to load your magazines with a snap cap (dud round) in one of them somewhere. It will help you practice clearing your pistol and using your "barney".

Don't look for your mags. You don't need to pull them in a specific order. Just drop your hand and grab what you touch. Keep the pistol up when you change mags, don't lower, insert, raise, takes too much time and you have to regain the target. You don't need to hammer the bottom of the mag into the pistol, just put it in right the first time. Whirlwind Wendy taught me all this.

More time is wasted on mag changes than anything else in WBAS. Don't take the gun too far down from the line of sight and practise with your eyes CLOSED. You have to feel the change to get it right. Watch shooters, most have the gun in a lowered position and canted when changing magazines. Both are time wasters. Many change the position from mag change to mag change, they don't know where they have the gun and have to look for it. GOOD LUCK.