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The question should be, Why didn't the old regime start an Open category like requested? The whole issue whould have been avoided.

For years, a lot of us offered ideas. They were shot down by people who never shot Wild Bunch and had not then, and still have, no clue. I will not stop criticizing the current status because when adults ran the organization it grew. Now, not so much… If it were growing as some claim, why were the “Classic” categories created?

You can buy a 1911 for $300 these days, not sure I have seen a $1000 1911 in anyone's holster at a WB match. My wild bunch gun definitely wasn't $1000, not now nor 22 years ago when I bought it. Pump shotguns are under $500. There are M12s on Gunbroker for $3-400 all the time. Rifle there's a lot of cheaper options, but yeah, a 73 costs more than a thousand bucks. Gen Z put Creed back on the charts 30 years later. Dozens of them were shooting at the match I was at last weekend, which has a similar cost of entry. They're showing up and doing very well. A friend of mine won the USPSA Production Nationals in 2016, I believe he was 18 years old at the time. He isn't quite Gen Z, but he was shooting at 12. Interesting how the goal post moved after I pointed out that your response is not credible. Nobody has marketed it to them, and it's not "cool," so they're not doing it. They aren't having kids, either, the birthrate among them is a fraction of what it was for our generations. I don't know how Creed is getting people who weren't even born when the records came out to come to their concerts, but their concerts are full of people who weren't born when I first heard the songs, which I didn't think were particularly remarkable even then. The youth are the future of everything. If we don't market to them, we're done. Make it "cool" and they'll show up. I shot my first match a few weeks after my 21st birthday when I became old enough to buy a handgun. There's no reason we can't reel them in. I shot more when I was in my 20s than I do now, and I actively try to find the time now compared to then when I just showed up. If PRS, USPSA, NRL22, IPSC, IDPA, ATA, NSSA, and so on can do it, we can, too.

No body said "no one wanted it" the past regime said "nobody would shoot with the .38 rifle"

So, out of 164 Shooters at EOT WB: 86 shot classic 68 shot wild bunch Yeah, I see an overwhelming demand for classic, not. Or, are those 68 not "real shooters"

As part of the under 38 demographic, things that make the game interesting: Condition 1, movement with loaded chamber. WB was always cheaper to get into $600 1911 vs $1700 revolvers. Doughboy and Teddy Roosevelt got to a $500 rifle Big guns at further targets, DB and TR was much more fun than pistol cal. See 3 gun rifle distances. Targets getting bigger and closer are less interesting for WB. It was nice being able to shoot two different games (targets/speeds) between WB and cowboy. shooter's choice on gun was great, but that's fading out with the PF changes. It let the shooter attack the stage how they wanted to do so. I am glad to see the correction with recommended pistol round count.

Let's see. 1000+ bucks for a rifle, 1000+ bucks for a pistol, 1000+ bucks for a shotgun. Gen Z can't afford to get into the game. They don't have the disposable income nor time to play. They're invested in earning a living, family, stuff other than shooting. Start a tik tok string up, see how it works. Don't think you'll get many, gen z, followers but, I've been wrong before It was said, the Youth were the future of SASS. The youth won't be playing cowboy or wild bunch until they are the old.

I don't know why people keep saying "it's been tried." How? Gen Z people are on tiktok. They are not reading this (or any) forum. When they were born, the internet already existed. Before they became old enough to have an account on social media, social media exploded and they look at it for 16 hours a day. When's the last time you saw anything related to Wild Bunch on Tiktok? If we are serious about reaching Gen Z and Alpha new members, the marketing has to fit the target audience. I am far from an expert on how to do it, and they're half my age, so they're not in my social network. But until I see a critical mass of young adults who are not at a match with their parents, my response to "it's been tried" is that is nonsense. Whatever was tried didn't work because it didn't aim at the target, it just shot aimlessly out into the world. As for condition 1 and movement, it is absolutely essential. It is the change that will make this into a dynamic and exciting shooting sport instead of a game based on a hybrid between movie reenactment and target shooting. I'm sure the movement especially will come with considerable opposition, because the majority of the people shooting this game came from SASS's other game. That is how it started after all. But if we want our own identity, there is one way forward: make it athletic. It's already fast; people comment all the time about how rare it is to have a clean WB match (I'm proud to have two of them). So the next layer is get people's feet moving. Get the sights bouncing and put some long shots in there. Raise the round counts. We have a whole bay, so it's time to use it.

Dude, you keep bitching and complaining but I don't see you putting any ideas up. Stop it.

WB is not tracked by age. It's broken into age range categories. 2026 EOT WB had over 160 shooters. But, you weren't one....why?