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You are correct.

He was too vocal criticizing how things were being done especially all the changes that were happening in WB. Marshal Stone

Lonestar Hoss, Putting rounds down range is definitely therapeutic, whether it's in a competition or by yourself at the range. Just shoot for fun. 😁

I'm still on the fence on whether to let it go or not. It's my last 73, and it is just sweet to shoot. I may wait a while and see if I can improve my abilities. I wasn't much of a threat to win anything before, and I still find putting rounds downrange therapeutic. I mostly do off of a rest with much smaller things now, but would really like to get back to being able to complete a stage, and hopefully a match.

He also had a lot to offer.

That would be Condition 4, as defined by Jeff Cooper. Wild Bunch was developed using a Condition 3 carry from the loading table to the firing line - hammer down on empty chamber, and a loaded magazine inserted. And after unloading table, hammer down on totally empty gun. If folks are practicing using Condition 4, they are not really getting ready for a big match. good luck, GJ

I don’t think I have ever heard CAS awards announced as (for example) “Men’s Duelist”. Of course not, because there are no men’s only categories. The WBAS handbook has always, to my knowledge, included the same language: There are no men’s only categories. Despite that I often see category signup sheets, scoresheets and awards for “Men’s Modern” and the like. I just saw a photo of buckles to be awarded at the SE Regionals, same thing. If an accomplished lady shooter chose to compete in a base category and won, would she want an award with that label. It’s just inconsistent with the SHB that we say we follow.

I shot the local club’s “mixed” match yesterday and it was fun. They plan to have a mixed match in October, then a real Wild Bunch match in November. The MD wrote a club rule that WB shooters would not insert a magazine at the LT. Instead, the shooter would stage the rifle and shotgun, then the TO would give a “load and make ready” command. On the second stage the TO forgot to give me the command and I forgot to remind him (being accustomed to inserting a mag at the LT). The pistol was not the first gun so I had to insert a magazine on the clock. It became something of a game for the WB shooters to see if the TO would remember.

What the heck did he do to get banned from both wires? He often had useful information to share. Wondered what happened to him.

Yes! I will have a lot at Land Run as it seems folks’ ammo seems to let them down at big events! 🥰 Hugs! Scarlett

You know guys, I'm not a moderator on this forum anymore but I think this thread has run it's course. 3 pages to answer a simple question is enough. It has turned into an opinion piece. How about tucking your opinions aside and go shoot??

Since i was there at the beginnings of SASS, if not cowboy action itself... I'll let you in on a little, well-known fact at the time. The founders of SASS, aka the "Wild Bunch", were tired of the equipment race that had inundated IPSC. One of their stated goals was not to let Cowboy Action become the equipment race IPSC had become. Short stroked rifles became the norm before they were recognized as such. Most of the rules in cowboy action are in place because someone over stepped the bounds of good sportsmanship. I.e., "if it ain't against the rule, I can do it." And while you say I am being dishonest by preferring something that is disliked by someone else, I would say, please look in the mirror. We just happen to be looking at the issue from opposite sides. I happen to like the game as it was originally governed. 45ACP, .40+ caliber for the rifles... and while I detest the 1897, I didn't moan and cry about having to buy one to play the game. And it wasn't because I dislike pump shotguns... I happen to absolutely love my Remington 870 Riot gun, skeet gun & Wingmaster. But, if I had whined and cried about not being able to use it, and went about claiming it should be allowed 'cause I could use it in 3-Gun... that would be disingenuous. Instead, I went out and bought a couple, 3. When the mdl 12 was approved, I thought, let me give this a whirl and bought one. Mine must not be the best example, as... shhh... I prefer the '97. Let us simply agree to disagree on the base pad issue. If you want to lobby the TG's about changing that , keep it out of the Traditional categories. And lest you think I'm simply anti-base pad, I had to remove several rubber base pads from magazines so they'd comply with the rule at the time... My EDC is a Combat Commander, with its own set of magazines which kept those same ~¼" rubber base pads I removed magazines destined for WB use. I fully recognize their utility and aid to recharging the pistol. But... WB ain't practice for a life n' death encounter. It's a game. As a former sworn peace officer, I carried several different firearms in that career, adapting to them and adapting them to my preferences. However, gun games are not that. Each gun game has its own set of distinctive rules and norms... as well they should, otherwise they become simply mundane... My 3-Gun 1911 has a beavertail, extended thumb safety, slide release and a compensator, along with a stash of 8 round magazines with base pads of various sizes and contours. Nothing in WB precludes an IPSC shooter from participation, simply gives they a reason to buy another gun and develop additional skills. Nothing about trigger time in any gun sport is wasted in another gun sport. God bless.

FWI Boggus has been banned from the wire. He will see this but won't be able to respond. Marshal Stone

Yep, let's keep it an exclusive game that nobody from anywhere else wants to join for as long as possible. I'm sure that'll fix the problem.