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Older 1911s made with a "military" throat (intended for 230 FMJ ball) often used to have big problems with 200 gr SWC bullets or early (1960s) hollow point ammo. Usually a gunsmith could throat the gun properly for SWC lead or JHP. Or suggest the use of "hybrid" design magazine lips that gave a more controlled release point than the military hardball tapered lips. When that was completed, any ammo would usually run if it could drive the slide properly. I too have shot many thousands of rounds of H&G 68 lead bullets through the 1911 Series 70 I've had since 1974, with no problems when seated with the top land right at the case mouth and lightly taper crimped. But I shoot a Truncated Cone bullet now just to be able to share ammo with other shooters who may come up short. good luck, GJ

We've done it for years at RUCAS in Renton, WA. Most people shoot Cowboy on Saturday and WB on Sunday. We load mags 7/3, 6/4, or 5/5 depending on the scenario. Great practice for tactical reloads. I've never after shooting 10 rounds at a cowboy match had trouble with 14 at a real WB match. I like to also shoot all rifle targets with the 1911 rather than the close up pistol targets. Also good practice. Some folks also shoot what we call Ranger. Two double action revolvers, semi auto pistol caliber carbine or Tommy gun, and a semi auto shotgun. The point is monthly matches are for fun and practice. Gives people a chance to shoot guns they normally don't get to shoot.

The federal ammo in question is just powdercoat like I do at home (from what I've seen at matches) and will be fine for WBAS.

Years ago I got a case of 200 grain lead SWC 45 acp ammo. The stuff ran perfect through the Kimber I had. Since then, I've only run standard 230 grain ball through through the 1911's I've had. Never tried anymore SWC in any of my other pistols. Curious as to your experiences with SWC 45 acp in your guns. Perhaps it is individual firearm sensitive for reliability and I just got lucky with the gun I had or do quite a few of you use 200 Grain SWC with solid reliability?

All of it comes down to magazines. The GI style feed lips release too early and that can cause feeding issues. Most all 1911s will feed SWCs with the right magazines. There can be issues if SWCs aren't loaded to the correct dimensions, I had my own feeding problems this past year and I've loaded tens of thousands of .45 Auto cartridges. I am shooting 230 RN bullets because the SWCs aren't any softer, but you will probably see me at a WBAS match shooting SWCs sometime soon because I casted a bunch of them and they need to go somewhere. I use Tripp Research mags, and I haven't found anything that feeds as nicely as they do.

Never had a bit of trouble in several hundred thousand rounds of 200gr SWC (H&G 68 configuration), as long as I stayed in the 1.24” to 1.26” OAL range. There are a lot of 180gr SWC bullets with the same profile that also work just as well.

Scarlett's ammo will be a lot softer shooting (lower velocity) than the "big factory" 230 grain ammo. I'd try her .45 auto ammo! good luck, GJ

Bullets By Scarlett offers EXCELLENT, LEGAL Classic Power Factor 45 ACP ammunition. 230gr bullet. New brass. Hugs! Scarlett Darlin’ SASS Affiliated Merchant I am not sure if I’m registered for this WB Wire. I’ve tried. If this is an inappropriate post, apologies. This is my first WB post, I believe. I will be at Land Run. And will be shooting WB!

It's not nylon, it's poly so therefore, legal

I wouldn't shoot a match that did the 5 round thing, I'd just shoot cowboy there instead.

No, No, No. Then those shooters will attend a real WB match, load mags with 7 shoot 5 and SDQ for moving with a round under the hammer. Best way to combine CAS and WB is separate posses. Use the CAS target placement but move the shooting positions back to WB distances and have WB scenarios. Use 7 round mags. Dusty Bunch, in Casa Grande, do this all the time. Works great.

Just tested some Bullseye loads under a 200 grain lead slug. 4.8 grains made a plenty strong load - about 170 PF out of my gun. Made accurate ammo, matched WST for tight groups. Just as dirty as it was in my pistol loads in the 1970s. Kind of a sharp recoil impulse compared to good ol WST. good luck, GJ

So a limit was there before and after that. A 170 grain bullet has never been legal in WBAS since I have been a SASS member.

Now guys, try to get over your egos and stick to the issues. I don't know you, EL Chapo, but I have known G Joe for at least 20 years. He speaks from many years of 1911 knowledge. I don't always agree with his approach to things, but he really knows his stuff. I know my way around a 1911 pretty well also. I was one of the big time dealers in 1911's from 1970 until 2014. I have "fixed' hundreds of them with small issues to big ones. I have probably handled/fixed more 1911s than most active shooters put together will ever see. It wasn't unusual for me to deal with well over a thousand a year in busy times. I always had 500+ in inventory. So just remember that different people may disagree about small issues but don't let this wire get like the SASS wire. We kept it civil for years and I for one would like it to remain so. I feel that the current most knowledgable person in SASS/Wild Bunch about current issues is Boggus Deal. He builds 1911's from a block of steel and knows how to fix anything. I don't blame him for not getting into discussions like this, he is too busy building/fixing guns to bother. Happy Shooting.