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Can’t make up rifle or pistol…

Hope everyone has a joyous Holiday season and bright New Year. Eyesa & Ellie

Send it to Boggus or Kingsnake to fix it ST

Merry Christmas to all you reprobates!

Because they do not have the collector value that 97s and 12s have, making them more affordable for shooters. It hurts less to cut the barrel on a 25 than a 12 of comparable condition.

Merry Christmas to you all!

A Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone...and if you are another religion...a happy whatever you celebrate

Wild Bunch Action Shooting Participation and Voting Data: 88 Territorial Governors 85 Votes – 96.5% Response Rate Voting Item Should WBAS allow Shotgun Make-ups? RESULTS NO. Leave it as is. A Shotgun Miss is a Miss. – 61 (71.7%) YES. Allow Shotgun makeups in WBAS. - 24 (28.2%) NO CHANGE

Bear Creek has been running both of these as main match categories for 3 years now, and have strong competition in both. These two are easily the most fun categories, if nothing else just because they are something different and a different kind of fun.

Send it to a Smith that has some experience. Dent removal has a bit of a learning curve and if things don't go as planned, a replacement mag tube is probably hard to come by.

Both of those are for a specific purpose on Remington shotguns and likely wouldn’t work on a tube with a dent 4-6” down the tube.

And for future reference, all Model 12s are takedown. Even the Model 12 Featherweights are takedown. They only hold 4 rounds. The Model 12 “solid frame” is called the Model 25.

Both very highly polished and used very gently. The round mandrel is a very snug fit inside the mag tube.

Probably a dented tube. I see it often. I have a mandrel and a body hammer that I use to fix that problem.

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Hodgdon publishes data for shotshells that they believe meet their own reliability of performance standards. The soft end of those are are heavier loads than what many cowboy shooters use. Hodgdon is not "your huckleberry" with making cowboy loads either for shotshells or pistol cartridges. They just don't want to get into the testing that we (maybe 2%) of the shooting pubic might need for what used to be called "gallery loads". So, other cowboys' experience is about the best you can count on. What we "need" falls below the velocity (and recoil) of almost any commercial usage - even target loads. When no factory loads that way, why would Hodgdon stick out their neck and recommend them? good luck, GJ

Just for reference, I have been loading and shooting Titewad 12gr, with 7/8 oz for the past year has been excellent. Since I ran out and can't find Titewad, switched to Perfect Pattern. Also now using 12gr under 7/8 oz and it is very close recoil wise. My wife hasn't even noticed a difference since I changed powders. I did have to raise the wad seating a little to keep the crimp level as PP is less bulky and uses a smaller bushing to get the 12 gr load. Hope this helps.

There is no correlation between trigger pull and the hammer impact force. IF the sear and the full-cock notch have a nice tuned fit. The force on hammer fall comes from the MAINSPRING strength and the weight of the hammer. Now, you probably don't want to change out to a different weight hammer. So you will be concerned with the force applied by MAINSPRING. A stronger mainspring, and you get more hammer strike force. Not linear and exact relationship, but that's the way it works. Why does the trigger pull force have nothing to do? Because the sear notch on the hammer is in the same place REGARDLESS of how much force you set the trigger up with. Since the hammer fall starts in the same place (when sear clears the full cock notch), and the mainspring works on the hammer through the same amount of rotation, all that matters is how strong that mainspring is (and how smooth the hammer pin and side walls of the hammer slot in the frame are, to eliminate any friction). A heavy spring on the trigger or sear only adds to the force you have to apply to the trigger. The trigger does not transfer any of the trigger pull force to the hammer. You use the chrono and lower the powder charge (MAYBE 1 GRAIN STEPS) until you get your desired velocity. Once there, you fire 25 or 50 rounds in practice sessions to make sure you get a working discharge of both shot and wad EVERY TIME. Using a double barrel, load two rounds, fire them, then look from the chambers down the barrel to make sure everything cleared the barrel. Pump gun testing would be harder to do (use a cleaning rod to punch out the barrel) and tell you nothing extra about the function of the shells. If you start getting sunken crimps due to the lower charge weights, you may have to find a taller wad or put less pressure on wad seating or lower the level of the crimp die settings. Or use a more bulky powder. Clays was a great powder for light shotshells for cowboy shooting. Titewad and Titegroup are less satisfying because they are not as bulky and can give you fits with the "stack height" that supports the crimp petals and prevents sunken (leaky) crimps. good luck, GJ

The military 1911s had wide hammers until 1926. 'Nuf said.

Battle Born Rangers typically offer both as part of the monthly Wild Bunch Matches. Along with BIG BORE at the CAS matches. They were also part of the Nevada State Wild Bunch match in 2023.

Never heard of anyone ever wanting to shoot one of these in 20 years of wild bunch. Probably because the 1st one was manufactured in 1949, 30 some years after the time period of the wild bunch. Rules are now it is not legal. Bring it up in the TG forum and see if it gets any traction. I am sure we will be discussing it at the next ROC meeting as well if there is significant interest. When I looked at gunbroker it looked like these were more expensive than a model 12. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1138024614

They are side match categories starting the first of the year, you will hopefully see these side matches more at state championships and above that have the facilities/range requirements.

The Model 25 holds 6….. The Model 12 Featherweight only holds 4.

Why would you want to use a Winchester 25? The magazine capacity is limited. 97"s and 12's are available, as far as slide-action shotguns are concerned..

I hope it’s a great day!

I would submit a request to the ROC requesting approval.

Oakwood Outlaws in TX offer those categories as part of their Monday matches. The folks that regularly shoot the Monday match usually get together and pick which category they want to emphasize to create more friendly competition. I am retiring at the first of the year and plan to take advantage of their 3 day monthly matches. For those like me that live a little far away they have a bunkhouse and RV spaces for a nominal fee. That way I can make attending the match like a mini vacation.