Flying W Ramrod

Vitivhouri is being used by a lot of shooters in the States

Safe Conditions During a Course of Fire – Shotguns A shotgun is considered SAFE to leave the shooter’s hands in the following condition only (some conditions may be corrected before firing the next firearm): - Empty. - No live round in the chamber, action cycled, and muzzle safely downrange. - Hammer fully down on an empty chamber or expended round, action closed (restaged for further use) - Action open. Believe this answers that question. As long as the action is open, the shotgun is safe to leave the shooters hands, whether there are rounds in the chamber or not.

I'm in. Got my email.

First, what club are you a member of? Second, go to the main page here and see the post about "welcome 2024-2025 WBAS Leadership" Third, scroll down until you come to your State/Club and find the TG listed. If you're club is not on there, then contact you club officers and get a WBTG elected and into the program.. The WBTG should do the same as the CAS TG by being a conduit, to and from, SASS WB ROC and the Club regarding WB Questions, policies, changes etc.

I have been shooting SASS for over 20 years. If you're voice isn't being heard, and is the majority voice, change your TG. It's, really, that simple. Don't whine, don't complain, change it.

Until the "new" TG/ROC, there were only ROC and Ambassadors. Neither of which were in touch with the rank and file shooters. They only listened to their over inflated egos and self worth. Now, each, club, each member, each shooter has a voice. And, if the current TG/ROC don't listen, they can, and will, be replaced by those who will.

The TG's submit member concerns, questions, inputs to the ROC. The ROC formulates answers. The answers are promulgated to the TG's who, in turn, take them to the members for input/votes. The members send their inputs/votes to the TG's who take them to the ROC. If the members say yea, or nae, the ROC adopts the results. That's the way it should work. If it doesn't, change who's at fault. TG's, ROC's, whomever. The members are the deciding body. Just like a Republic, one person, one vote. Since this is a "wholly owned subsidiary of SASS, the final say is in their purview. I'm sure SASS will do what the members desire if, financially, ideology, and legally, feasible.

Thanks Pard

The answer to that is contact the local CAS Clubs and see who would be willing to put on a WB Match. It's not up to SASS to get clubs to hold WB matches. In fact, I know of one CA club where the founding member says WB will NEVER happen on that range using CAS Bays, Props, and/or Targets. Contact the Clubs. Poll the Members and see if a Match would be viable.

Got a pard interested in shooting WB. Has a box of 230g hollow points, lead. Wants to know if they can be used for 1911 WB Pistols I don't know, any ideas?

The rules are influenced by the TG's, who, should be, influenced by their club members. That was a problem with the old ROC. No input from the members. Members who don't have inputs, leave the sport.

Nope, still listed Team Ruger

Vendors, owners vs competitors. I know a fella that makes model 12 firing pins, should this fella be considered a professional as well?

apples and oranges

too easy. One who is paid by a corporation to compete, includes, but not limited to, travel, entry, guns, ammo, lodging.

As to HT, there is a movement, and sentiment, around about "professionals" in our sport. Just give them a "buckle" and let the amateurs shoot for the win. I happen to agree.

No

One of the biggest mistakes shooter do. Do Not use 5 round mag sequences. You go to a real WB match, and use 7 round sequences, shoot 5 as you have at home, and move, SDQ. Seen it done many times.

Did on Monday 3/31/25, hope it gets there this time. The first check has not cleared so there's that. 😄

Just put a stop on the first check. Second check, and application, filled out and in envelope. Going to Post Office in the morning. See you all in June

As we've seen in the past, if you make the match too challenging, (so no one can clean it, P traps, weird sweeps, target size and placement) and the shooters aren't having fun, "entertainment", they won't come back, "loss of revenue". No club can withstand loss of revenue.

Queen of Bling has 2. Always need a backup 😄

Kingsnake has done both my 1911's with these. They're great

Best bet is to read the Shooters Handbook for all your firearms questions.

There was an, uploading, computer glitch. Scores should be posted on EOT site tonight. Match was challenging. Only 1 clean match, Holy Terror. Lots of movement, some small, dueling tree, targets. Think all had an interesting time. I imagine, next week, will have more reports as folks come home.