Flying W Ramrod

Arizona State Wild Bunch is in the books. Here's where to find the final scores. Look at February Wild Bunch Thanks all who shot, Sorry to all who missed it. 2023 Schedule & Match Results | Welcome to Cowtown! (ccsa-az.com)

The only "round discovered" penalties are Miss or SDQ (if it's in the chamber). WB does not use the MSV for round on carrier or in magazine penalty

You load the required number of rounds, up to 6, at the loading table. Once you shoot those 6, the remaining rounds (subsequent targets) must come from the body or a staged location. This does not mean to say you can only load, and shoot, the number of rounds needed for that location, i.e. multiple shooting positions for shotgun. It means load up to 6 and load from the body or staged location, as needed, after the first 6 targets have been engaged. You are safe for movement: WBSHB Pg 15 "Safe for movement shotgun in hand only – Action open, round on carrier. – Hammer fully down on an empty chamber or spent round, action closed." You are safe for the shotgun to leave your hands, restaged for further use: WBSHB Pg 15 "Hammer fully down on an empty chamber or expended round, action closed (restaged for further use)"

Don't forget. WB RO Class at Cowtown Range, just 20 minutes from Ben Avery Shooting Complex, home of End Of Trail, in Phoenix, AZ. February 17, 2023 Sign in at 0730 Class at 0800 Instructors: Legendary Lawman, Serenity, Flying R Ramrod and Renegade Roper. $25.00 for first timers $10.00 for refreshers Contact Flying W Ramrod for information at ramrodwayne@gmail.com The Arizona State Wild Bunch Championships are held February 18-19. Bring ammo and shoot it. Contact Barbwire at snow.g@att.net

WBSHB Pg 7 Only non-adjustable “military style” simple blade rear and front sights allowed. The 10-8 National Match and the Harrison Design 003 are approved rear sights.

Yep, they do. Nope, not everyone runs through. They pull names, at random, at the start of the match and those shooters have their ammo checked. At Cowboy matches, they chrono only those who sound/look like they're below power factor. Usually because of a challenge by another shooter in their category.

Don't forget, Wild Bunch match. Saturday, December 24. Registration at 8:00. First round downrange at 9:00 128 Pistol 24 Rifle 26 Shotgun Take a break from the holidaze, you've earned it, and you'll need it. See you on the range.

Wanna get away from the hustle and bustle? Wanna escape the family unit for a bit of relaxation? Snowbird looking to do something fun for Christmas Eve? Join us at Cowtown, just 20 minutes from the Ben Avery Shooting Center, for a Christmas Eve Wild Bunch Match. Registration at 8:00 First round down range at 9:00 5 stages, should be done around noon. ccsa-az.com for directions to the range. Come out and get your HO-HO-HO on.

OK, it's on. WB RO Class Friday, February 17, 2023 Cowtown Range 10402 W Carefree Hwy, Peoria, AZ 85383 Sign in 8:30 Class Starts 9:00 Download, read and bring the WB RO Manual. $25.00 for first timers $10.00 for refreshers. As a side note, February 18-19 is the Arizona State Wild Bunch Championship at the Cowtown Range. G Bring enough ammo to shoot the State match and 10 days later, EOT Wild Bunch. Yeehaw. 20 stages in 10 days. Let's play. Contact Flying W Ramrod at ramrodwayne@gmail.com to register and for more information.

You're both signed up. my email is ramrodwayne@gmail.com Email me for more info, including directions. Regards

February 17 is doable but it has to start at 0900. The next two days, the 18th and 19th is the Arizona State Wild Bunch Championships. While you're here for the class, shoot the match, at the same range. Winner Winner Chicken Diner 😄 If Legendary Lawman, and Serenity are ok with this, we can call it an EOT Wild Bunch RO Class, as it's just 10 day before EOT, and only 20 minutes from Ben Avery Range. Looks like at least three wanting the class. Anyothers want to jump on the class wagon?

The 18-19 weekend is Arizona State Wild Bunch, the class would have to be around 2:00pm as the class is about 5 hours.

That's Fire and Ice at Cowtown weekend, so that's out.

Just putting this out here. Anyone interested in an WB RO Class, in Phoenix, a week or two before EOT? Since folk may be taking time off to shoot EOT, both WB and Cowboy, the class could be held during the week, or on a weekend (which are pretty full already). Please, let me know your thoughts and if you'd attend. Regards Flying W Ramrod WBRO Instructor

Nope, only Cowboy scores are up.

No sir. The "overloaded" round is non-existent until fired, or ends up under the hammer of a closed, discarded, pistol, then it causes a problem. Regards

You are correct. With the information provided, we don't know if the pistol was the first or last gun used. Assuming the first, or second gun used, it would be an SDQ. if it was the last gun used, and the 8th round not used, it is a no call. There is no penalty for overloading the mag, only for using the overloaded round.

SDQ. WBSHB Page 21 "A cocked, loaded firearm leaving the shooter’s hand."

If you look at the WBSHB, page 10, under "Safe for Re-holstering" it says "Slide closed and hammer down on an empty chamber with no magazine. Only after RO inspection at firing line." Ensuring the Hammer is Down, in this instance, intimates that the Hammer was down upon reaching the stage. Also, if it's not spelled out in the WBSHB, refer to the CAS SHB. Page 13 "Six-shot revolvers may be loaded at the loading table with a maximum of five rounds and the hammer lowered and resting on the empty chamber." regards

Tried to edit this but can't. That rule states "Restaging a long gun for further use with the hammer NOT fully down on an empty chamber or fired case and the action closed." Which means, to me, that if you restage a long gun, for further use, and the action is closed, it must be hammer down on empty chamber or expended round. This does not pertain, nor excludes, the first part of the "Safe to Leave Hands" statement of "NO LIVE round in the chamber, action cycled, and muzzle safely downrange." So you are correct, the ROC needs to clarify this.

Good call. The ROC is looking for places like this so they can align the rules. Again, good call.

Please note the entire rule: "Safe to leave the shooters hands. – NO LIVE round in the chamber, action cycled, and muzzle safely downrange. – Hammer fully down on an empty chamber or expended round, action closed (restaged for further use)" This means you have two choices. First, you can leave it Open, with a round in the magazine or on the carrier but not in the chamber. or Closed with the hammer down on an empty chamber or expended round, for future use. Your choice. Note it does not say "No Live round in chamber, magazine or on carrier.

A while back, I saw a rule that all pistol rounds must come from a magazine. This precluded using a single, loose, round inserted directly into the chamber. I can't find this rule anymore. Was it removed, and if so, when? Regards

Week later. The BP match is Feb 10-13. AZ State is Feb 18-19. Fire and Ice is Feb 25-26. EOT WB Feb 27-28. EOT Mar 1-5.

Tha's the Ambassador page. Are there any clarifications, rule changes, etc on that page that should be made public? Heck, as an WBAS RO Instructor, I can't even see that page. As far as the "super scoop" mag release cut out is concerned, is there a max cutout for the mag release cutout? If so, where is it listed? Regards