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Wondering why it has never been required to test functionality of this. Grip and Thumb have been the only required testing.

The disconnector aka "John Wayne" safety, is a silly thing to test for Wild Bunch. There should never be an instance where pushing the muzzle against something hard, to keep it from firing, would ever be acceptable.

It's used when there is an appearance of PF failure. At the old WR, it was used every day, every year. Random shooter, one or two per posse, had to submit ammo in ziplocks to be tested. Happened the same way at the older 4 Corners Regionals. Happened, for cause, at a 4 corners regional as well. Shooter had to change ammo. PF was so low it wasn't cycling his 1911.

WBAS Shb Pg 13 says "Thumb and grip safeties must function correctly" However, there is no procedure or requirement to check the safety for function. That would fall under Match Directors Discretion. I remember, years ago, at Winter Range, every shooter had to weigh their pistol, with and without mag, and show the safeties to be functional, on one stage. Haven't seen either of those in a long time.

It's in the WBAS SHB, pg 31

Not at EOT for rifle (classic) or pistol

WBAS SHB Pg 21 "All types of athletic shoes or combat boots, no matter the material from which they are constructed. Note: Period military boots with non-grip enhancing soles if appropriate for the costume are legal for Wild Bunch Action Shooting."

WBAS SHB Pg 5 "Boots must be SASS legal."

Go here Scores-by-Category-Wild-Bunch.pdf look at ES Modern vs Classic ES Modern Senior Modern vs Classic Senior Modern

Again, two separate occurrences. 1 Action must be cycled when discarded for the FINAL time. 2. Action not required to be cycled WHEN FOR FURTHER USE.

I've got pink on the front and lime green on the rear. 😄

There is no penalty for "overloading" any long gun. The penalty occurs when something is done with the "overloaded" rounds, i.e. Shot downrange (P), used to complete a sequence after ejecting a round (P+M), left in chamber of gun, action open or closed (SDQ) Other penalties are: Expended round left in chamber and action NOT cycled (MSV) The only Possible penalty for loading 4 when the instructions called for 2 is 1: P for not following stage instructions 2: Get someone who knows the rules to write the stages.

2 separate things Hammer fully down on an empty chamber or expended round, action closed (RESTAGED FOR FURTHER USE) Means: you'll be using the shotgun again on that stage. Not cycling the action of a long gun at the end of the shooting string before the next fire is fired. Means: you're done with the shotgun for that stage and won't be using it again. There is no conflict because there are different scenarios for these rules.

WBSHB Pg 14 "Sights may not be optical or fiber optic. Laser sights are not allowed. Sights may be painted or have colored dots or inserts." No restriction on colors for 1911 sights in Modern.

No Look at my answer above. It lists the approved site colors.

Because there is none. It's only a penalty if there is a live round in the chamber SDQ If there is an expended in the chamber, and the shotgun is staged closed, it's a P for not cycling the action.

Both pistols are ok. The Queen of Bling uses the SR1911 for both Main Match and a second for backup; WBSHB Pg 18 "Shotgun barrels may have internal choke tubes installed provided they do not extend beyond the muzzle." WBSHB Pg 19 "Front sights may be bead or simple post types. - Mid-barrel sights are allowed and must be the same color as the front sight. - Front sights may be blue, black, steel, ivory, faux ivory, brass, gold, pewter, copper, or silver." No red sights allowed, either optical or stationary, for shotgun.

No body said "no one wanted it" the past regime said "nobody would shoot with the .38 rifle"

So, out of 164 Shooters at EOT WB: 86 shot classic 68 shot wild bunch Yeah, I see an overwhelming demand for classic, not. Or, are those 68 not "real shooters"

Single Stack 1911 in .45 acp Any SASS Legal Rifle .38 or larger, PF 60 Any SASS Legal Shotgun Just like it is now. But now, we get to go back to the .40 cal, or larger, rifle, PF 150. 12 gauge pump shotgun

The question should be, Why didn't the old regime start an Open category like requested? The whole issue whould have been avoided.

I'm all for getting more folks shooting our sport. Just need to figure out how to do it. I'm not a toker, is that a thing? You might contact SASS to see who is in charge of electronic media advertising. Maybe work with them on what sites to focus on and how to do it. Most us shooters are so old we remember dirt with it was new 😄 I shot my first match in 1971 in Navy boot camp. Didn't touch one again until I started wild bunch. Standing Top Side watch, in the Navy, you carried one but it didn't even have a mag in the well. In our case, if there was trouble, we'd just submerge 😄

Let's see. 1000+ bucks for a rifle, 1000+ bucks for a pistol, 1000+ bucks for a shotgun. Gen Z can't afford to get into the game. They don't have the disposable income nor time to play. They're invested in earning a living, family, stuff other than shooting. Start a tik tok string up, see how it works. Don't think you'll get many, gen z, followers but, I've been wrong before It was said, the Youth were the future of SASS. The youth won't be playing cowboy or wild bunch until they are the old.

Dude, you keep bitching and complaining but I don't see you putting any ideas up. Stop it.

Now compare that match to a 3 gun match. Basically that's what WB is. 168 shooters. It's been tried for decades to get other disciplines into WB. Since we don't do Condition 1 and run and gun, probably won't happen soon. In a similar vein, Cowtown was told "if you allow condition 1 and movement, we'd shoot it". So Cowtown did and...... Those shooters said, "oh, we sold our guns years ago, we don't do that anymore, we just shoot cowboy". Lots of talk, little or no action. If you have any ideas or a template to get others in, let SASS know and, maybe, just maybe, it could happen.