Flying W Ramrod

Again, two separate occurrences. 1 Action must be cycled when discarded for the FINAL time. 2. Action not required to be cycled WHEN FOR FURTHER USE.

I've got pink on the front and lime green on the rear. 😄

There is no penalty for "overloading" any long gun. The penalty occurs when something is done with the "overloaded" rounds, i.e. Shot downrange (P), used to complete a sequence after ejecting a round (P+M), left in chamber of gun, action open or closed (SDQ) Other penalties are: Expended round left in chamber and action NOT cycled (MSV) The only Possible penalty for loading 4 when the instructions called for 2 is 1: P for not following stage instructions 2: Get someone who knows the rules to write the stages.

2 separate things Hammer fully down on an empty chamber or expended round, action closed (RESTAGED FOR FURTHER USE) Means: you'll be using the shotgun again on that stage. Not cycling the action of a long gun at the end of the shooting string before the next fire is fired. Means: you're done with the shotgun for that stage and won't be using it again. There is no conflict because there are different scenarios for these rules.

WBSHB Pg 14 "Sights may not be optical or fiber optic. Laser sights are not allowed. Sights may be painted or have colored dots or inserts." No restriction on colors for 1911 sights in Modern.

No Look at my answer above. It lists the approved site colors.

Because there is none. It's only a penalty if there is a live round in the chamber SDQ If there is an expended in the chamber, and the shotgun is staged closed, it's a P for not cycling the action.

Both pistols are ok. The Queen of Bling uses the SR1911 for both Main Match and a second for backup; WBSHB Pg 18 "Shotgun barrels may have internal choke tubes installed provided they do not extend beyond the muzzle." WBSHB Pg 19 "Front sights may be bead or simple post types. - Mid-barrel sights are allowed and must be the same color as the front sight. - Front sights may be blue, black, steel, ivory, faux ivory, brass, gold, pewter, copper, or silver." No red sights allowed, either optical or stationary, for shotgun.

No body said "no one wanted it" the past regime said "nobody would shoot with the .38 rifle"

So, out of 164 Shooters at EOT WB: 86 shot classic 68 shot wild bunch Yeah, I see an overwhelming demand for classic, not. Or, are those 68 not "real shooters"

Single Stack 1911 in .45 acp Any SASS Legal Rifle .38 or larger, PF 60 Any SASS Legal Shotgun Just like it is now. But now, we get to go back to the .40 cal, or larger, rifle, PF 150. 12 gauge pump shotgun

The question should be, Why didn't the old regime start an Open category like requested? The whole issue whould have been avoided.

I'm all for getting more folks shooting our sport. Just need to figure out how to do it. I'm not a toker, is that a thing? You might contact SASS to see who is in charge of electronic media advertising. Maybe work with them on what sites to focus on and how to do it. Most us shooters are so old we remember dirt with it was new 😄 I shot my first match in 1971 in Navy boot camp. Didn't touch one again until I started wild bunch. Standing Top Side watch, in the Navy, you carried one but it didn't even have a mag in the well. In our case, if there was trouble, we'd just submerge 😄

Let's see. 1000+ bucks for a rifle, 1000+ bucks for a pistol, 1000+ bucks for a shotgun. Gen Z can't afford to get into the game. They don't have the disposable income nor time to play. They're invested in earning a living, family, stuff other than shooting. Start a tik tok string up, see how it works. Don't think you'll get many, gen z, followers but, I've been wrong before It was said, the Youth were the future of SASS. The youth won't be playing cowboy or wild bunch until they are the old.

Dude, you keep bitching and complaining but I don't see you putting any ideas up. Stop it.

Now compare that match to a 3 gun match. Basically that's what WB is. 168 shooters. It's been tried for decades to get other disciplines into WB. Since we don't do Condition 1 and run and gun, probably won't happen soon. In a similar vein, Cowtown was told "if you allow condition 1 and movement, we'd shoot it". So Cowtown did and...... Those shooters said, "oh, we sold our guns years ago, we don't do that anymore, we just shoot cowboy". Lots of talk, little or no action. If you have any ideas or a template to get others in, let SASS know and, maybe, just maybe, it could happen.

WB is not tracked by age. It's broken into age range categories. 2026 EOT WB had over 160 shooters. But, you weren't one....why?

I am. Classic Modern Elder Statesman. I also heard, well, over half have switched to Classic.

SASS® Wild Bunch Action Shooting™ Effective January 1, 2026 SASS Led (Business Policy) Changes 1. Maximum pistol weight for the 1911 will be changed to 43 ounces. 2. SxS/Double shotguns must be staged open and empty. The provision to load under TO supervision will be removed, eliminating any contradiction to SASS’ firearm handling and safety covenants. 3. Teddy Roosevelt and Doughboy will no longer be official WBAS Main match categories. They will be moved back to WBAS Side match status. 4. Lady & Junior WBAS categories will be protected. These categories will not be subject to minimum mandates and will be honored regardless of the number of entrants. 5. The age determination for the WBAS Senior category will be changed to 60+. 6. SASS will add Elder Statesman Wild Bunch and Grand Dame Wild Bunch as official categories- with the age determination of 70+. 7. SASS will add Classic Wild Bunch Categories. a. Classic Wild Bunch Modern b. Classic Wild Bunch Traditional *These “Classic” categories will carry the reinstated parameters for Power Factor and Firearm requirements; 12-gauge SG (Model 12 or 97), 1911 and Rifle in 40 cal. or larger, 150 PF minimum. Classic WBAS and will also be broken out into Senior and Elder Statesman/Grande Dame (with minimum entry mandates in place). 2026 Clarifications/SHB Edits 1. 1887/1901 loading procedure: At the loading table, load as many rounds as the 87/01 will hold – up to 6 in the magazine and carrier. Close the action on empty chamber, hammer must fall unimpeded. 2. Tie down holsters are legal. Appropriate verbiage will be added communicating it. 3. Dotted sights – Appropriate verbiage stating darkening dotted sights as a 1911 pistol modification in the Traditional category, is legal. 4. Shotgun gauge clarifications: Aside from the new Classic category parameters of 12-gauge, new verbiages will be added to simplify and clarify the acceptable gauge range for shotguns in WBAS. 5. The average pistol rounds of a WBAS Stage is 28 rounds.

Yes, that's it. The first post gives the changes/clarifications to the SHB and Policy changes from SASS HQ, as well as the vote issue.

And Pike was, mainly, wearing a buscadero rig with a double action revolver instead of the 1911

That is correct. The 25 was introduced as a lower cost model 12, by being not takedown. Everything else is the same. Contact you TG to have it put on the next agenda or brought to the ROC for clarification

2026 WB Changes.docx

Yes, just can't affix the bayonet.

Nothing on FB Page. No valid link to Club website.