Teddy Roosevelt and Doughboy categories

[Bullseye Bracc]

I see the Teddy Roosevelt and Doughboy categories in the rulebook, but I’ve never heard of anybody hosting a match with these categories. Does anybody know of any matches where there would be some competition for either of these categories?

[JJ]

Last summer at the Northwest Regionals in Jerome ID, the Snake River Western Shooting Society offered those two categories at their match.

I know folks that shot both categories and they had a 'Hoot'!!

Why the powers to be canceled these two categories out as main match categories is an enigma to me. 

What harm did it cause to leave as it was??? 

Here is the link to their match:

https://www.casidaho.net/sass-wild-bunch-territorial

J.J.

[Artemus]

Bear Creek has shot these two categories for about four years now. It was nothing but a whole lotta fun.

[Bullseye Bracc]

Where is Bear Creek? I live in New York

[The Butcher]

I believe that the problem is that many ranges don't have bays with enough distance to offer them.  My issue is that  like so shoot both, and when it's a side match, I can.

[marshal stone]

3 hours ago, The Butcher said:

I believe that the problem is that many ranges don't have bays with enough distance to offer them. 

This is the exact reason for the move.

Marshal Stone

[wyliefox]

From the announcement

3. Teddy Roosevelt and Doughboy will no longer be official WBAS Main match categories. They will be moved back to WBAS Side match status.

28 minutes ago, marshal stone said:

I believe that the problem is that many ranges don't have bays with enough distance to offer them.

What could have been stated is that because some ranges are not able to accommodate the required distances, clubs are not obligated to offer Teddy Roosevelt and Doughboy.  Doing so allows clubs the option

[Boggus Deal]

21 minutes ago, wyliefox said:

From the announcement

3. Teddy Roosevelt and Doughboy will no longer be official WBAS Main match categories. They will be moved back to WBAS Side match status.

What could have been stated is that because some ranges are not able to accommodate the required distances, clubs are not obligated to offer Teddy Roosevelt and Doughboy.  Doing so allows clubs the option

A local club can still do as they please. And should.

[wyliefox]

I am referring to sanctioned matches.  Which is the source of my quote

Edited 16 hours ago by wyliefox

[Bullseye Bracc]

I’ll travel within the Northeast to even shoot a local match. Only problem is, I don’t reload for those rifles. I have a Savage model 99 chambered in .300 Savage for Teddy Roosevelt and an American Enfield chambered in .30-06 for Doughboy. All of my ammo is jacketed, which I do think I would be allowed to use. I was also curious how non-jacketed would even perform at those velocities. I never shot either category before, so I’m not even sure what people use.

[Artemus]

4 hours ago, marshal stone said:

This is the exact reason for the move.

Marshal Stone

Don't penalize everyone.

[Garrison Joe]

4 hours ago, Bullseye Bracc said:

All of my ammo is jacketed, which I do think I would be allowed to use. I was also curious how non-jacketed would even perform at those velocities.

Point 1 - as far as I have followed the two categories, match directors have restricted ammo to lead bullet only so as to not require clubs to put AR500+ armor steel targets at 100 or more yards.  Both the steel and the land is expensive.

Point 2 - lead bullet ammo can be made to shoot real well from 1400 up to 1800 FPS or so with little difficulty, and hold accuracy of 2 to 3 MOA over at least 200 yards.  Going beyond that requires a fair amount of understanding and testing.  Up until about 1895, all rifles shot lead bullets (and black powder, even).

good luck, GJ

 

Edited 11 hours ago by Garrison Joe

[Sedalia Dave]

On 11/23/2025 at 2:27 PM, Bullseye Bracc said:

 

I see the Teddy Roosevelt and Doughboy categories in the rulebook, but I’ve never heard of anybody hosting a match with these categories. Does anybody know of any matches where there would be some competition for either of these categories?

Oakwood Outlaws in TX offer those categories as part of their Monday matches. The folks that regularly shoot the Monday match usually get together and pick which category they want to emphasize to create more friendly competition. 

 

I am retiring at the first of the year and plan to take advantage of their 3 day monthly matches. For those like me that live a little far away they have a bunkhouse and RV spaces for a nominal fee. That way I can make attending the match like a mini vacation.

 

[wyliefox]

On 11/23/2025 at 12:27 PM, Bullseye Bracc said:

see the Teddy Roosevelt and Doughboy categories in the rulebook, but I’ve never heard of anybody hosting a match with these categories. Does anybody know of any matches where there would be some competition for either of these categories?

It is common if not expected that Teddy Roosevelt and Doughboy are part of our monthly Wild Bunch Matches.