Artemus Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 I was hoping so see some "proof is in the pudding" with all the talk of giving Wild Bunch Equal standing. I was disappointed this morning to find the National Championship didn't make the cover. In my mind, there are four national champions. Feel free to say I'm a stick in the mud, but if we really want to promote and grow WB then we should give it recognition as well. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshal stone Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 This surprises you because?????? Marshal Stone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 What Marshal Stone said - This surprises you because?? I am thrilled that the young lady on the cover of the January 2025 Chronicle is a friend of mine. Met her (and her father) a number of years ago at a Minnesota State Cowboy Match. She sat down at the table I was sitting at (by myself) and proceeded to talk to me she had know me forever. I was taken aback at her gesture. Have even had the chance to shoot a WB Match with her at the same range at a later date. She is one of the good persons to know. Yah - perhaps there should have been more written about the WB Match at Land Run. Just leaves a greater opportunity for others to step up and shine. J.J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemus Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, marshal stone said: This surprises you because?????? Marshal Stone It doesn't sadly, just real tired of everything that's been lost in the last couple of years for nothing to be better. More progress in equal standing was made by EoT in changing the verbage, having a dedicated WB shoot off and awards. Land Run following this lead only helped reinforce what looked like progress. Now we are back to fighting to keep what we had, at least that's how it felt leaving that last TG meeting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC Moonshine Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Good day all, I hope everyone had a fantastic Christmas and new year day. I truly hope that 2025 is not the "year of offense" at every corner. Wild Bunch made fantastic strides last year and will make even bigger advances this year. But if we are, 2 days into the new year, going to start the back sliding to criticize every detail of every perceived offensive item you can find, then it's going to be a rough long year. How about maybe offering to write articles for the Chronicle about WB, how about submitting pictures to SASS to use, how about posting some good engagement type posts on the CAS wire and here in the WB wire, how about finding just a few good things to say about all that has been already done. How about sending a private email to Misty Moonshine with a concern or suggestion, instead of posting it in the forum and get a reply from her before setting the pace in here. Has it accrued to you that new potential Wild Bunch shooters come onto the WB wire and see post threads like this, do you think this would encourage them to hang out and become a part of Wild Bunch? I'm a huge supporter of Wild Bunch and even spent 5 office hours yesterday working on our club website and scheduling details for the Indiana Wild Bunch State Championship coming up in June. But threads like this one just totally suck the life out of me. I look forward to seeing many of you at EOT, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarsaparilla Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Who do you think submitted that photo to Sass? My brother took it on my phone, and I uploaded all of the awards photos since no one else was taking photos. I have to agree that I keep hoping to see the progress and equal standing promised, but I still have yet to even get a single acknowledgement from a Sass official on my win. I had several lengthy interactions will all of them afterwards and not a word about it to either of us national champions. Throughout the rest of week I had a bunch of other wonderful shooters come up and congratulate me, some I don't think I had ever even met before but they could be bothered to say something nice out of the blue. I was at least hoping for better treatment from our official magazine... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back 40 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I would just like to get a Chronicle 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC Moonshine Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, sarsaparilla said: Who do you think submitted that photo to Sass? My brother took it on my phone, and I uploaded all of the awards photos since no one else was taking photos. I have to agree that I keep hoping to see the progress and equal standing promised, but I still have yet to even get a single acknowledgement from a Sass official on my win. I had several lengthy interactions will all of them afterwards and not a word about it to either of us national champions. Throughout the rest of week I had a bunch of other wonderful shooters come up and congratulate me, some I don't think I had ever even met before but they could be bothered to say something nice out of the blue. I was at least hoping for better treatment from our official magazine... Hi Sarsaparilla, I'm not sure who else did or didn't extend congratulations to you, but I shook your hand and congratulated you in person and we talked for a few minutes, but I am kind of forgettable I guess...…. AGAIN, in writing, congratulations on the Championship. As for photos, you were not the only one taking pictures just fyi. On 1/1/2025 at 10:09 AM, Artemus said: I was hoping so see some "proof is in the pudding" with all the talk of giving Wild Bunch Equal standing. I was disappointed this morning to find the National Championship didn't make the cover. In my mind, there are four national champions. Feel free to say I'm a stick in the mud, but if we really want to promote and grow WB then we should give it recognition as well. Artemus, By the editors laying out the digital Cowboy Chronicle with the photos and articles does not reflect any "standing" or ranking of anything. I personally thought the Wild Bunch coverage and photos in the article were very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemus Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 9 hours ago, CC Moonshine said: Wild Bunch made fantastic strides last year and will make even bigger advances this year. What does this entail, I understand there is an ROC now, but I was hoping to see the follow-up reports mentioned in SASS's evaluation last year. Especially a one year, to try and quantify the change. If progress is being made let's communicate it. Hell, shout it from the roof top. 9 hours ago, CC Moonshine said: How about sending a private email to Misty Moonshine with a concern or suggestion, instead of posting it in the forum and get a reply from her before setting the pace in here. Has it accrued to you that new potential Wild Bunch shooters come onto the WB wire and see post threads like this, do you think this would encourage them to hang out and become a part of Wild Bunch? I'm a huge supporter of Wild Bunch and even spent 5 office hours yesterday working on our club website and scheduling details for the Indiana Wild Bunch State Championship coming up in June. But threads like this one just totally suck the life out of me. I have communicated directly in the past on at least a few matters. I am more than happy to do so when that seems to be the appropriate method. I fully understand your remark about the impression this leaves with newer WB shooters. However, I would say that posting things like this can provide a barometer to if someone's opinions are shared or unique. Additionally, garnering public support is one of the most effective tools to drive change. CC, I will unabashedly say I was happy to see that you shot the WB match at Land Run. That was one of the best gestures, in seeing someone from "SASS" be it advisory board or otherwise participate in an upper level WB match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misty Moonshine Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 19 hours ago, Back 40 said: I would just like to get a Chronicle Hi Back 40: Happy to help get this resolved! I'll send you a PM to verify your mailing address. I just checked the last 3 printed (mailed) issues of the Chronicle and you are on the mailing list. We are mailing them to you. In terms of your digital delivery of The Cowboy Chronicle via the Member Bulletin, the history within the program shows us all emails delivered - and even the time when you open those emails. USPS service has always been lackluster at best, but we all know its really hit a new low over the last couple of years. Hopefully we can get your printed versions figured out for you. Misty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC Moonshine Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 14 hours ago, Artemus said: What does this entail, I understand there is an ROC now, but I was hoping to see the follow-up reports mentioned in SASS's evaluation last year. Especially a one year, to try and quantify the change. If progress is being made let's communicate it. Hell, shout it from the roof top. Hi Artemus, Establishing a full new WB-ROC was a big step forward, and they have been hard at edits and clarity issues from the go. Prior to 2024 there was 20-24 WB clubs with matches posted yearly, Now with the WB-TG process as a matrix there are 43-53 clubs actively developing WB programs, more clubs at least offering it as a side match, or mini match, or building to a stand alone monthly event. Several States are actively bring back or starting WB Championships (Indiana will have a 2 day, 10 stage WB State Championship June 12,13- 2025) as an example. I have spoken, texted, or emailed with many SASS members looking for information on starting WB at their clubs. TG involvement at this point has been promising, and we are looking forward to both the CAS and WB TG meetings at EOT 2025 will be an awesome year to organize and gather feedback from TG's and their club members on rules and helping clubs launch WB programs 15 hours ago, Artemus said: CC, I will unabashedly say I was happy to see that you shot the WB match at Land Run. That was one of the best gestures, in seeing someone from "SASS" be it advisory board or otherwise participate in an upper level WB match. I appreciate that. I'm shooting WB again and have always enjoyed WB, as I mentioned before, our club (Paradise Pass) offered WB as a side match clear back in roughly 2008 or 09, then we tried making it part of our CAS match as a category. We had it as a mini match several times for Indiana State (we have hosted 15 state matches), we have held the State Championship last year and this year are expanding it to 10 stages in two days. I gunsmith all the 1911's that come into our gun shop, I carry one every day, and Misty and I own several, this is not new or hard for us to dive into. Santa even brought Misty a new Ruger SR1911 and a fantastic Model 12 so as time allows she will be joining us. I am for sure shooting EOT WB, Landrun, and several other matches this year as we travel. I hope this year becomes the year that everyone rallies to build WB as a collective group and we can set a great future for the sport. Have a super day everyone, CC Moonshine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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