Boggus Deal

Not flush.

Flush. 

No.

1 hour ago, Flying W Ramrod said:

The answer was given, multiple times.

Any type of round, except live, left in any, cycleable, firearm is a no call if the action has been cycled. SxS cannot "cycle the action" therefore, any round left in the SxS is, either a MSV or SDQ. 

Again, not for the round but for NOT cycling the action.

So opening the action would not be considered “cycling” it?

Maybe the whole idea of doubles in Wild Bunch should be reconsidered…

Kirkpatrick Leather builds some really good Wild Bunch holsters and mag pouches.

13 minutes ago, Montague Kid said:

I put Boggus’ firing pins in. Both my M12’s.  Also followed the instructions for removing the non essential parts. Both guns run perfectly. I did not put the new hammer springs in yet only because it appears to be a little more complex job than the FP’s. Boggus, if you have any tricks to ease that installation let me know. 
MK

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1 hour ago, El Chapo said:

I struggle with the same thing.  Having it on Tuesday is hard.  Thursday/Friday would be great.  

It just needs to be kept separate.

1 hour ago, El Chapo said:

I think we need to take the equal standing seriously if we want this to happen.  "Wild Bunch is not a side match" needs to become our phrase.  I also think there should be a push for the Wild Bunch and Cowboy Action Shooting state matches to be at the same location and done during the same event.  Make it known that we won't be ignored and the recognition will come.  

The problem with having them at the same time is the Main Match is usually put on Thursday and Friday and the cowboy side match is Saturday and Sunday. When I held the WB state match as a stand alone event, we grew over 25% a year for five years even during the chicom pandemic. 
When the main match is held during the week, it’s hard for people who work to make it. 

8 hours ago, Smokewagon Grampies said:

Isn't the validation the way you verify the good email? If you approve without a scammer could be admitted?

I’ve been on both so long I don’t remember how they do it. But it obviously wasn’t the same, as Dutch D. Moderator said it was, originally. I do know there seems to be a lot less scammer activity here than on the SASS wire.

Well, they surely did not do what the shooters wanted with the rifle and shotgun rules, did they? And it sure didn’t help attendance…

But if you want to keep believing that warm wet stuff running down your back is rain, be my guest!

And while you can take it up with the TGs, they have absolutely no say in the final decision regarding any rule. 

First rig: J.M. Ross belt, holster, mag pouches and ammo slide. Belt measures 46” to center hole sold

Second rig: second rig unmarked also 46” to center.sold

New in box unfired. Color cased. Besides Colt, the only US made GI pattern gun $1050 shipped

• Starting in 2019, we had three years of double digit growth at our State WB matches, then all the rule change rumblings started and we've been down shooters ever since. I know this is localized data, but it is consistent in the adjacent state matches I've shot.

Winter Range/EOT sold out every year even with an ever increasing cap until last year. For the past two years, it has not filled up. 

24 minutes ago, El Chapo said:

Loaded my WB ammo last night.  3.6-3.7 of Clays with a 230.  Thought about trying some new powders but Clays and 45 ACP go together like love and marriage.

I believe WST is a softer recoiling powder than Clays. And Clays seems harder to get at the moment.

1 hour ago, El Chapo said:

Agreed.  250s would be too slow.  In 40, I found 200s to feel about the same as 180s so I shot the 180s.  In 9mm, I'm not even sure I can tell the difference between a 125 and a 147 at the same power factor.  The difference in 45 between a 200, 230, and 250 in slide speed is huge.

Shot splits made the difference for me. 

7 hours ago, Flying W Ramrod said:

Vendors, owners vs competitors. I know a fella that makes model 12 firing pins, should this fella be considered a professional as well?

Should he? But that does bring up a good point. Should an owner or manager who influences the rules, therefore the outcome, be allowed to compete? 

7 hours ago, Flying W Ramrod said:

Nope, still listed

Team Ruger

I was on the Lucas Oil shooting team and I never worked for them. She is retired.

36 minutes ago, Abilene said:

I don't know but would guess that a corporation didn't pay all that for her to go to EOT.  

You would be guessing correctly.

56 minutes ago, Flying W Ramrod said:

apples and oranges

How? 
 

6 minutes ago, Flying W Ramrod said:

too easy. One who is paid by a corporation to compete, includes, but not limited to, travel, entry, guns, ammo, lodging.

So, Scarlett Darlin’ would be a professional? Misty Moonshine or CC Moonshine? All three make their living of off the shooting sports..

28 minutes ago, marshal stone said:

Someone who makes their living shooting.

Marshal Stone

But she’s retired.

1 hour ago, Flying W Ramrod said:

As to HT, there is a movement, and sentiment, around about "professionals" in our sport. Just give them a "buckle" and let the amateurs shoot for the win.

I happen to agree.

 

Just how do you define a “professional” shooter? 

7 hours ago, El Chapo said:

Perhaps this is something that can be fixed with the next rule change.  I know CAS doesn't really like us moving with loaded guns, but literally every other handgun shooting sport allows movement, so it's really not clear why we have to be different.  Even Steel Challenge has one stage with movement.

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@BradyT88 I meant to tag you in the above post.