Griff

Stage Points. Total time simply encourages youthful, adolescent, reckless abandon. We should be responsible adults. Matches should ONLY be scored based on the overall finish, with category placements based on overall. Total time scoring is a falsehood perpetuated by a weak-willed majority, that want their participation trophy regardless of skill or actual performance. Any event where raw speed outweighs the ability to hit targets has denigrated into less of a shooting contest and more of a "trigger drag race." A contest where 4 people that shoot 12, fast, clean stages can be beat by someone that has misses, is no longer a contest of shooting skill. Let's not become "cowboy with a 1911" all over again.

I argued for TT in cowboy action for several years. Back in the '80s. Until the WB sat me down and explained their thinking on the subject. Same with Stage Point Scoring. It's the resort that's the problem, not the scoring method. Overall scores are sorted based off the fastest time of ANY shooter on that stage. Category placements are simply pulled from that overall sort. Same as it SHOULD be down with rank points. A shooter's percentage should only be based off where s/he finished against that fastest time. As long as the sort is against the fastest time for any shooter per stage, under stage point scoring someone from another category doesn't affect any shooter's percentage, unlike the PERCEPTION in rank point scoring. AND, unless you resort scores based on individual categories, thereby giving the illusion that someone finished higher or lower in the overall than others in that category. Categories are an artifice, and SHOULD be viewed simply to easily determine how one did against others in the same age group, or other qualifier. The CLOCK is a constant, it starts at zero and goes until the last shot. Where an individual falls in that range should also be a constant... not all of a sudden introducing a different clock. There should only be ONE clock... not a different clock for Juniors, Seniors & Silver Seniors... ad nauseum.

+1!

YeeHaw! Someone else to place behind!

I want to come... but, don't know yet if I can make it. Hopin' I can sign up at the match again?

As usual, I'll be waiting til the last minute to decide... SWMBO has yet to give me a "go-ahead"...

I have a RIA that has a coupla thousand rounds thru it, bone stock except a little ramp work. Seems to be holding up ok. But, it's really just a back-up to my back-up! I use a pair of Taylor's Tactical (made in the same place as the RIAs) with several thousand rounds thru each and no broken parts... yet! Both have had the stock sights replaced, for operator ease, and an action job with a little attention to the ramp. No complaints about any of the 3.

My thoughts exactly. Why are we changing things in the "hopes" of attracting new shooters. They will just find another reason to not shoot WB. What's next? 38's? 9mm? Finally! It won't be CAS w/a 1911! I've advocated for the 7 round per mag from the beginning. It won't affect how often I'll be shooting, the work schedule takes care of that. But it certainly gives me an incentive to get up early and make the 2 hour drive in bad weather after draggin' my carcass home @ 2am the nite before!

Also have to give a HOOYA! to both Cap'n Sam and Goatneck for their win in the team Shotgun Match!!! Way to go!

Congrats Sam! Fine job!

I certainly didn't do any extended testing... but from my Garand I fired two clips of lubed, GC'd 150 grains, then two clips of the same bullet, powder coated, both over the same charge of 4064, same lots of primers, cases and gaschecks. No discernable change in POI. Three different shooters using the same rifle: http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/sass93/IMG_0491.jpg (the four holes on the bottom target were the 2nd four of the 1st clip with just a change in POA. I used the bull of the upper target as POA). We took photos after each shooter shot four rounds from a clip, the four shots on the right were my son, who first insisted on shooting a different poa than us "old guys"! I just haven't marked which holes were whose. The backer was a cardboard silhouette, and we were aiming just about the shoulder line, or base of the neck... whichever you prefer. I still need to up the charge a little for proper operation... AND bring the poi up, before I get to shooting for accuracy.

Congrats J. Frank Norfleet.

I just powder coated some 150 grain GCFN... for the Garand... Noted that the same lubed GC bullet weighed in at 151.3, while the powder coated version with GC was 153.6! http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/sass93/DSCN0955.jpg Gonna test 'em out on Saturday!

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Front Sight? Are we to use a front sight? Maybe I didn't read all of the instructions. It's one of those "iffy" things... If I use it... I slow down; If I don't... I miss!

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I'm ready... after I load ammo, clean mags, and get the front sight on my 1911 restaked!!!

It was until you showed up! :P

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Have you tried looking at Ammo Depot? I haven't been in there in a while, but he used to have many surplus Nagants and Mausers of various sorts. Just down the road from you a half mile off 30, between Rockwall and Greenville. http://www.ammodepottx.com/firearms--optics.html#sthash.TQz0A1kJ.dpbs Really lookin' for an 03A3, and, yea, I stop in there from time to time... BTW, have missed seein' you the past few shoots.

Price ain't necessarily the issue, simply finding one. I'd buy a junker (at junker prices) & fix it, but seems the ones I see, they want "new, unfired" prices for junk.

You mean we're supposed to be going FAST? ;D

I'm a dedicated levergunner... and feel I'm at no disadvantage (or advantage) using a rifle caliber levergun. Been looking for a correct bolt gun to compete... hate borrowing other people's stuff... but, opening it up to period leverguns (no mods but sights... and I mean NONE), as well as military bolt guns WILL increase participation.

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Thanks for a great match yesterday. I especially liked the LAST stage! But, we should have included the 'Star' again... since no one accepted my apparent challenge to shoot it backwards on the stage before!!! :P ;D ;D