Baltimoreed11754

IMO, SASS Wild Bunch needs to become WASA [Western Action Shootists Association] which could easily incorporate WB and BAM matches. The folks who got tired of ipsc becoming an equipment race and dropped out [me] moved to SASS [shot duelist with traditional guns] and eventually moved to WB and WASA [me, got tired of only using single actions]. And now WB feels like an equipment race again [a lot of folks] so it’s slowly dying. No real costuming, too close targets, modern speed holsters, speed pouches and modern guns=an equipment race, IPSC in cowboy boots, not recreating scenarios from an iconic movie. Every time I talk to cowpokes from other clubs I’m hearing that the WB matches have no participation so they were ended. Tried to find a WB shooting club in Florida to shoot a match during a future vacation, no luck. Red Headed we are. Soapbox mode off.

Thanks for the explanation Boggus, sounds like it’s an effective way to ‘tax’ guns to keep them out of the state. Should be illegal imo, got to be violating the Second Amendment. Only on the left coast would you be able to get away with this c&@P.

I’m in NC but I am curious about how a single stack 7 rd, .45 1911 could run afoul of CA’s pistol silliness?

Good article Grouchy. One of my absolute favorite movies. My cas club does WB shoots several times a year and even though it’s not required I always quote lines from the movie when the RO asks ‘shooter ready?’ ‘Give’em hell, Pike’ is my favorite. Thanks

Never had a problem with shock buffs, have them in my full sized 1911s and in my Ruger minis. Steel slamming against steel can’t be a good thing. I know that’s not how JMB designed them but given the modern material they’re made of as compared to 1910 rubber who knows what JMB would have thought of them let alone polymer instead of steel. Think of what he could have done with a cnc machine. I also use a Tubbs flat recoil spring in my WB 1911 but like full length guide rods [not legal for WB duelist] in my other 1911s.

Given the number of veteran SA shooters who become greenhorn 1911 shooters and who fumble their way through a WB scenario I totally see why sass chose the cold range and the 5 rd mag rule for so many years. Different games with different rules.

Hey Joe, I just don’t see the logic with the heat shield bayonet lug being an illegal aftermarket mod on a cut civilian M12 sg. We cut sg bbls all the time in this sport, probably 95% are cut. Given the high price of original military 97’s and M12s being even rarer yet and with Norinco TGs not even being imported anymore we would never has access to the military style sg unless we build them ourselves. The military mods [shields, lugs and slings] are purely esthetic and don’t give the shooter any kind of an edge in fact they probably slow him down as compared to the guy running a civilian gun but the tricked out 1911s and belt rigs are ok and definitely do help the shooter. Of course I understand I’m talking different 1911 handgun classes but mods are mods. I would be cool with rules against gamer mods but a rule against something purely esthetic is ridiculous. And given the ‘modern’ WB category to say that any mod is esthetically incorrect is silly.

Hey guys, while I’ve been a member of sass for a right long time, sass#11754, it’s been years since I’ve posted anything on their forum. I don’t shoot my vaqueros much anymore or attend state or regionals since my wife had her stroke 12 years ago. I still shoot cas at ECSASS in Dare Co, NC every month but we are a sass/wasa club and practice both cas doctrines. I stumbled up on your forum awhile back but have finally joined today. Sorry that it’s old but this thread has got my goat and I’ve got to make some sort of reply. How the heck can the military 97 be ok but the military M12 not be? Especially when Kimbers, Springfields, etc and all the other hotrodded 1911s are legal in a shooting sport based on a movie that used gi 1911/1911a1’s? WB is not even loosely based on the movie though it should be but why ban the military m12 but not the civilian one?