Rules Question - 1911 rear sights

[Totes Magoats]

Anyone familiar with the Nighthawk IOS slide cut?  Would it be legal for WB assuming the rear sight mounted on the plate is legal for that category?

Pics here:  https://www.nighthawkcustom.com/interchangeable-optic-system 

Thanks,

Totes

[Boggus Deal]

That looks like a Novak sight cut. As long as there is no optic mounted, Novak sights are legal in Modern. Obviously, it can’t have a fiber optic either.

[Jorge]

Is the slide and barrel ported?  Doesn't seem to be a one piece slide, as the front sight is separate from the rear of the slide.

Interesting though

[Totes Magoats]

3 minutes ago, Jorge said:

Is the slide and barrel ported?

Only talking about the rear slide cut itself, not the pistol pictured.  Nighthawk will cut any 1911 slide to accept the plate, then you can swap between rear sight options (red dot, etc) and not lose zero.   So, for WB, assuming the rear that is installed on the plate is legal, would that modification to a 1911 slide be legal?

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[Boggus Deal]

3 minutes ago, Jorge said:

Is the slide and barrel ported?  Doesn't seem to be a one piece slide, as the front sight is separate from the rear of the slide.

Interesting though

Are you looking at the same picture? Obviously, the front sight dovetails into the slide. And neither the barrel nor slide is ported. 
 

[Jorge]

It may depend on how much weight it adds to the overall 1911.  Looks like it might be acceptable for Modern.

[Boggus Deal]

Just now, Jorge said:

It may depend on how much weight it adds to the overall 1911.  Looks like it might be acceptable for Modern.

It wouldn’t add weight. 😏

[Jorge]

I see that it is dovetailed into a piece of metal, but what is the "line" lot the rear of the front sight?

[Jorge]

Boggus, have you seen one?

 

[Boggus Deal]

1 minute ago, Jorge said:

I see that it is dovetailed into a piece of metal, but what is the "line" lot the rear of the front sight?

He’s not talking about the front sight or the ports. He’s talking about the rear sight. The rear sight dovetails to a plate and by changing just the plate, you can mount several different sighting options. With the Novak style rear sight, it would not add any weight to the gun. If anything it might take a little away.

[Boggus Deal]

2 minutes ago, Jorge said:

Boggus, have you seen one?

 

Seen, handled, shot.

[Totes Magoats]

5 minutes ago, Jorge said:

I see that it is dovetailed into a piece of metal, but what is the "line" lot the rear of the front sight?

For this topic, let's assume a currently legal 1911 pistol was modified with this rear slide cut and a plate was installed with a known legal rear sight.  Would the modified pistol still be WB legal (modern or traditional)?

[Jorge]

Looks like an idea long overdue.

Since it is not specifically allowed, let's get an official ruling and see if it can be legal.

[Jorge]

Boggus, why didn't you think of that?  you would be rolling in the dough from the royalties.

[Totes Magoats]

Just now, Jorge said:

Looks like an idea long overdue.

Thinking you could have 1 custom 1911 with the ability to use in WB along with other disciplines with a quick plate change on the rear.  At ~$350, that's a deal!

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[Jorge]

I posed the question in our WBAS RO area.  I hope it is viewed favorably.

[Boggus Deal]

16 minutes ago, Jorge said:

Boggus, why didn't you think of that?  you would be rolling in the dough from the royalties.

 

18 minutes ago, Jorge said:

Boggus, why didn't you think of that?  you would be rolling in the dough from the royalties.

Tell me about it! 

[marshal stone]

5 hours ago, Jorge said:

 

Since it is not specifically allowed, let's get an official ruling and see if it can be legal.

That would take a submission to SASS for a modification, referred to the ROC for review/discussion

and voted on by the TG's.

Marshal Stone