Actual Weight of Springfield Armory PI9132LCA 1911 Target 45 ACP

[Chase N Silver]

About to “pull the trigger” on purchasing a Springfield Armory PI9132LCA 1911 Target CA Compliant 45 ACP 5" 7+1, but wanted to confirm the actual weight. Specs say 41oz which is close to Wild Bunch 42oz limit. I assume the spec value is with an empty mag, but since it’s so close I’d like to confirm with someone who actually has one. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[Boggus Deal]

Even if someone has the exact model, it may or may not weigh the same. If you like the gun, get it! If it turns out to be too heavy, there are several non permanent ways to lighten that one. 
Just an FYI, that target rear sight can be fragile for WB. I’ve had to replace several broken ones for people.

[Chase N Silver]

2 hours ago, Boggus Deal said:

Even if someone has the exact model, it may or may not weigh the same. If you like the gun, get it! If it turns out to be too heavy, there are several non permanent ways to lighten that one. 
Just an FYI, that target rear sight can be fragile for WB. I’ve had to replace several broken ones for people.

Thanks for the feedback!

[Boggus Deal]

Having weighed all the guns I’ve built and hundreds more at matches, I can tell you it’s hard to be more precise. 

[Boomstick Bruce]

Can we just raise the weight limitation on these pistols? If a factory built 1911 is "too heavy" that seems kind of problematic... 

 

I'm sure I'm not the only person who never would have guessed i was very very nearly over the weight limit. + 2 ounces for both traditional and modern looks like it would cover all factory built 1911s. My rock island is too heavy for even modern. How can that be? How many people are running tisas, rock islands, norincos (also overweight for modern) and others and don't even know it? I'd bet a ruger sr1911 is way over weight. 

[Boggus Deal]

2 hours ago, Boomstick Bruce said:

 I'd bet a ruger sr1911 is way over weight. 

I bet not. With empty magazine, 2 lbs 6.2 ounces. 

[Boggus Deal]

A Traditional Colt at 2lb 6 oz even.

Edited August 5 by Boggus Deal
Pic added!

[Boomstick Bruce]

Wilson 1911s are too heavy for any wb category. A buddy weighed his for me @ 43.9 with a mag. My rock island (yes a know it has hogue laser grips, it's not a WB gun) it weighs 42.29 with a mag. So all I'm I'm asking is just add 2 ounces to the 1911 for both categories to alleviate the chance of someone unknowingly using an illegal gun.

We're allowing carbon fiber magazine tubes on 38cal 60pf rifles and now there's an article in the chronicle about allowing semi automatic rifles in WB soo what's 2 ounces on a 1911? 

Edited August 5 by Boomstick Bruce

[Boomstick Bruce]

12 hours ago, Boggus Deal said:

I bet not. With empty magazine, 2 lbs 6.2 ounces. 

I'm glad didn't actually bet on that...lol...

[Boggus Deal]

9 minutes ago, Boomstick Bruce said:

Wilson 1911s are too heavy for any wb category. A buddy weighed his for me @ 43.9 with a mag. My rock island (yes a know it has hogue laser grips, it's not a WB gun) it weighs 42.29 with a mag. So all I'm I'm asking is just add 2 ounces to the 1911 for both categories to alleviate the chance of someone unknowingly using an illegal gun. 

We're allowing carbon fiber magazine tubes on 38cal 60pf rifles and now there's an article in the chronicle about allowing semi automatic rifles in WB soo what's 2 ounces on a 1911? 

My modern gun started as a Wilson frame and slide. With all steel components and a full length guide rod, it’s well under the weight limit. I’ll weigh it later.  
I would check another scale. I’ve not weighed a Rock Island that heavy. Even guns with rails on it have been well underweight.

[Boggus Deal]

Also, the carbon fiber mag tubes are liners inside the steel tube. It’s not seen.

[Boggus Deal]

Wilson frame and slide. Full length guide rod. All steel parts except trigger and stocks. 2 lbs 7.3 oz.

[Cardboard Cowboy]

Well I do have to thank y’all for bring up the question of 1911 gun weight.  You made me open up the safe, one of them at least, and weigh a bunch of guns.  Weighed a total of 32 guns, and then stopped as there was no need to go further.

I have pictures of all these on the scale, no point in posting them here and taking up a bunch of space.  Unless y’all want visible proof.  But I do appreciate the photo’s that all have posted, I like looking at other guns.

Prior to weighing every gun I verified my scale with two 50 gram certified weights, for a total of 100 grams.  Scale hit 100 gram’s every time, except twice, it read 101 grams.  I’m not concerned with a .035 ounce error.  And it would be on the heavy side.

I weighed a total of 12 traditional guns.  Six that I built and six commercial guns.  Of the 12 traditional guns only one failed weight testing.  It was one I built and it has Woolly Mammoth Ivory grips on it.  They are very heavy.  This gun failed by .4 ounce.  These grips weigh in at 2.8 ounces.  They are actually heavier then a Tripp 7 round mag, which only weighs 2.4 ounces.  So I could easily get the weight down.  It’s my wife’s gun and she loves the grips.  Only uses this gun locally.  At any major shoot, she’s using a Springfield Armory, which weigh’s in at 38.3 ounce with a Tripp mag inserted.

Of the commercial traditional guns weighed.  Two Springfields, two colts and two Rock Island Armory’s.  The heaviest was an old Springfield SS gun at 39.7 ounce with an OEM mag.  All others were at least 1.5 ounces under the 40 ounce limit, with a Tripp mag.

Onto Modern guns.  20 guns were weighed, 10 built be me.  Commercial were six Les Baer’s, two Kimber and two Wilson.  Only three failed the weight of 42 ounces, again all three I built.  Two have Damascus steel slides on them, which are much heavier then the forged slides of Caspian and Les Baer.  And the Damascus was only 42.2, and these have Mammoth grips also.  The last one weighed a whopping 43.3 ounce, but it had the Mammoth grips and a Trijicon SRO red dot on it.  So does not count.

All other modern guns fell well within the 42 ounce with an empty 7 round mag.  I looked at the Wilson web site and none of their guns are listed over 42 ounces, empty.  And their empty is with a 8 round mag with a base pad.

Now I understand we will run into problems with scales used not being calibrated/verified, but that is critical.  When we are only talking about few ounces, you need to verify the scale with certified weights, not just start increasing weight limit’s on the gun.