promocop Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Is this pistol (you know the one with the puke brown coloring) legal for MOD Class? It has a rail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Well, P, you know where the rules are that govern this. You can read them yourself in the WB Shooters Handbook, or right here, too. Page 5 and 6. MODERN CATEGORY MODIFICATIONS Pistol finishes vary widely. Bluing, plating, polishing, painting, etc. are all legal. • Barrel length must be five inches. No barrel porting or compensators or other recoil reducing devices allowed. No recoil reducing devices are allowed. This means no Springcoil, STI, Fire Dragon, Hartts, tungsten, or similar recoil reducing guide rods, full length dust covers, extra weights, and the like. Dust cover light rails are legal. • Unloaded pistol weight may not exceed 42 ounces with an empty magazine inserted. • Barrel with standard barrel bushing. No Bull barrels allowed. • Magazine wells may be beveled, but may not be oversized, extended or flared. • Adjustable or non-adjustable rear sights and blade type front sights are allowed. • Sights may not be optical or fiber optic. Laser sights are not allowed. Sights may be painted or have colored dots or inserts. • Stainless steel pistols are permitted. • No target style grips or thumb rests allowed. Wrap around grips that cover a portion of the front strap are illegal. • Front and rear slide checkering or serrations allowed. • No external "rib" allowed on top of slide. This means no external rib such as a BoMar may be attached to the top of the slide by screws, welding, or any other means. The top of the slide may be flattened, serrated, and/or matted to reduce glare. Original Colt Gold Cup ribs are legal. • Extended beavertail grip safeties allowed. • Magazines must be standard length and cannot hold more than eight rounds. No extended base pads on magazines. This means NO base pads of any kind. Empty magazines must weigh no more than three ounces. • Magazine release may be extended but not oversized. • Thumb safeties may be extended and be ambidextrous. • Slide release may be extended. • Full-length recoil spring guide rod allowed. • Lowered and flared ejection port allowed. • Match trigger allowed. • Lanyard loop is optional. • Lightweight competition hammer allowed. • Checkered front strap and trigger guard allowed. This means any type of checkering, stippling, and/or serrations are legal. • Finger grooves on the front strap are illegal •Flat or arched mainspring housing allowed. Mainspring housing may be serrated or checkered. • Internal accurizing and action tuning is allowed. • Thumb and grip safeties must function correctly. As for a light rail and paint job, those are legal in Modern. You will want to check that you can make the upper weight limit! I highlighted in bold a couple of things to watch for. As I've not had one of the Marine Corp versions in hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. John Campbell Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 You may have a problem with the pistol's weight, according to Colt, the pistol weighs 42.4 oz with a magazine (7-round Wilson Combat) inserted. They say it weights approximately 40 oz empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promocop Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 Really? Someone would call me out for .4 of an ounce over in weight??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Promocop, yes. The rules are the rules. Another potential problem is that the scale being used at the match as well as the chrono is the Official equipment for that match and the results are not appealable. Not every scale or chrono is exactly the same so cutting it close may result in a DQ. Along the lines of "close": A member of the WBAS Committee was DQ'd awhile back for ammo that tested 149. The minimum is 150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Dot Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Pretty sure that power factor is 150 not 160. At least according to all the rule books I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promocop Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 Well, I'll adapt and overcome I have two other 1911 (RR from WWII and a 'new' -reissue Colt 1911) that will work. BUT, I don't get why the all the fuss about weight? Power factor on rds I get. I don't see what the advantage would be to have a very slightly heavier gun. Oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Two Dot, OOOPPS, was busy thinking about rules in another handgun sport when writing. Fixed my post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Dot Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 No problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I don't see what the advantage would be to have a very slightly heavier gun. Oh well Better recovery time from each shot. Sure, it would be in the milliseconds per shot. But it especially helps keep tungsten insert recoil guides and other race gun features out. If there is not SOMEWHERE on the frame or slide where you could not shave off .4 ounce of weight, I would be REALLY surprised. Like in the mainspring housing. Or even a groove down the middle of the light rail. Good luck, GJ Someone would call me out for .4 ounce? Well, no, we would hope you would call yourself out for .4 ounce. It's a different game here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promocop Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 True. I may wait until the new version with the ionbond coating comes out and weigh it,maybe its lighter Most likely i'll just use what I know to be legal and then there wont be an issue. Thanks all for the responses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggus Deal Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Promocop, there are several ways to possibly bring the weight into spec. First, the stocks on that gun are extremely heavy. Replacing them with some lighter wood or polymer ones would take a great deal of weight off. Second, if it has a full length guide rod, you could replace that with a standard spring guide and plug. Also, as mentioned, going to an aluminum or plastic mainspring housing will help. All of this could be done without permanently modifying the pistol. I'm not sure which barrel bushing it has but if it has one of the more modern, thick flanged one, going to a standard style one would remove a very slight amount of weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promocop Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 Well, as stated, I'm betting the next version with the new coating will shave the weight. Also, weighed my Chip Mags and they are all at or below 2 oz unloaded so I think I'll 'make the weight' class Thanks for the tips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bodie Tom Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Caveat NO aluminum frames........ Just sayin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promocop Posted December 24, 2015 Author Share Posted December 24, 2015 Well the 'new' version is out (Army style they call it) stainless frame, but no mention of the weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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