Silvertip Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 Any one have any experience with these? Claim easier racking of slide. SilverTip Quote
J. Frank Norfleet Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 Here is the link http://www.cammertechnologies.com Bogus Deal was working on something similar and you could tell the difference. Maybe he'll comment. I have never seen one of these specifically. So Silvertip, get one installed and we'll coon finger it at Winter Range. JFN Quote
Happy Jack Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 Definitely ILLEGAL on a traditional pistol. Probably illegal on a modern pistol, but not sure until we discuss it. IF it is for a non WBAS competition pistol, looks pretty interestin. Quote
Boggus Deal Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 Silvertip, this design, along with a modified firing pin stop, came from Austin Beahlert many years ago. It absolutely decreases the force required to rack the slide! I won't agree with the 31% claim. As J Frank noted, I have been working on something similar and plan to get samples to the WBAS committee as soon as possible! Quote
Silvertip Posted January 25, 2015 Author Posted January 25, 2015 Thanks Boggus thinking about something like this for Reds 1911 let's talk at Winter Range. ST Quote
J. Frank Norfleet Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 Hope the rules committee looks seriously at the crammer hammer and the Bogus modification. Anything to help the lady competitors and those struggling with arthritis in their hands. JFN Quote
Silvertip Posted January 25, 2015 Author Posted January 25, 2015 Norfleet that is why I am looking at this, also this is Reds main defense gun so if it works I am doing it. it would help keep her in Wild Bunch if it passes the rules ST Quote
Boggus Deal Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 Here are a couple of very crappy pics of the idea I am involved in. First, let me say, I take absolutely no credit for this. A good friend of mine has been working on this for several years now. I am just helping get it to production. As I mentioned in my earlier post, Austin Bealerht devised this many, many years ago. The same technology will be available on a 1911A1 type spur hammer, even if it doesn't become WB legal, it will be on the open market. Quote
Wild Bodie Tom Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 No offense guys. This has been done for a very long time. Bein as I am in the business, I will not comment further. Happy Jack. Ya may wanna contact me. Just sayin. Quote
Boggus Deal Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 Yep, the idea has been around for years. Quote
Happy Jack Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 My comment about it being ILLEGAL on a traditional gun mostly refers to the Commander type spur. One consideration given to whether a modification is "external" is whether it can be seen when the firearm is "action closed with hammer down". After thinking about this I am not sure it would be visible when the pistol was in that condition. IF that is the case it would not be an illegal external modification on a modern pistol since "lightweight competition hammers" are allowed. On a traditional pistol if the "standard spur type hammer" were to modified on the front face it could also be legal. It could be possible that some cutting away of the front face of the hammer could be done and not be visible in the condition specified. IF that were the case and the remainder of the hammer were legal it WOULD be legal. Perhaps the "Cammer Technology" hammer would not be legal but one similar to the photo in Boggus's post could be. We will just have to look at one installed to make a final judgment. Quote
Boggus Deal Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 Here are a couple pics of the hammer installed. Quote
Happy Jack Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 Obviously legal on a modern pistol. Just like removing metal from the bottom of the barrel on a rifle under the forend. The modification can't be seen so therefore under the rules it is NOT an external modification. As long as the hammer spur meets the guidelines what happens to the front of the hammer that can't be seen in it's resting position is legal. I'm not keen on allowing it on a Traditional pistol, but the Committee will have to decide IF we want to specifically deal with it on a Traditional pistol. My feeling is we will ignore it. Quote
Boggus Deal Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 HJ, as soon as I can get a sample of a traditional hammer, I will get one to you all for evaluation. I had one last week at SHOT and should have shown it to you. Just not enough time.... Thanks! Quote
Wild Bodie Tom Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 You are pretty fast. Have a bobble at the SHOT show or what. See ya in a few weeks Travis. Quote
Boggus Deal Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 That was a BOTTLE at SHOT not a bobble..... Look forward to it, my friend. Quote
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