Blackey Cole

Ok the scout bag up the brass do they sort between pistol and in another bag rifle or is all in one bag? If they are seperating the pistol and rifle brass, do you have you buy both or can you buy just the pistol brass? Or just the rifle brass? Is this how it will be done at EOT!

lol, as a side note did you ever get you some kg9?

Iirc it would pass for a modern gun but definitely not a traditional gun. The grip safety and hammer are not legal for traditional along with the sights and mag.

iirc the penally for an over loaded gun was removed a few years back if it ever applied to wbas in the first place. you have to you lay the gun down at the unloading table to clear it as long as it is action open or closed on a spent round. if you pick it up work the action and the first thing out is a loaded round you earned a dq.

get 230 grain bullets rather than 200 grain it will be easier to make power factor.

Good for you fern hey I'm glad your enjoying yourself and WBAS.

That's great your number almost out numbers the number signed up for the four corners regional from a email I received this weekend we had between 70 & 80 from four states signed up for the match later this month in regular CAS.

I used a similar rank to what I retired as in the USAF. Ssgt.

My point is what makes it a trench gun is the parts not the manufacturer. What if another importer,maker decided to make trench guns like they have with regular 97s and 87s would those be legal. And since both my 97 s have had barrels cut and work to mark them cowboy ready prior to me getting them to use in WBAS. How do I know one of them didn't start out as a trench gun years ago. A butt stock swapped etc and such. I just have a hard time seeing how adding the heat shield which is legal one one gun can be illegal on another. It like saying your boots are illegal because you had them resoled with the soles of another legal boot.

I understand what is written in black and white but I don't understand the difference between a winchester 1897 with a heat shield and bayonet lug from winchester and a winchester 1897 that had the same heat shield with bayonet lug added after it left the factory. What's the difference?

What so amazing? That I'm doing it or that I'm say why I'm doing it?

BJ, while the To might not care I guess that HJ does. I tried selling the part here and they deleted it twice. The HJ finally conceded that if I was to put a disclaimer that the part could only be used to restore an existing trench gun but not to build a new one at that point I decided it wasn't worth it. I also decided to vote with my wallet and refrain from shooting any WBAS match because of the stringent rule interpretations by the committee. I can not see the difference between a trench gun from Winchester or norinco and one that uses the same parts by a gunsmith or shooter.

I'll second that shot with them at EOT.

Finally I got an explanation. But I'll never agree with it 100% since I'm personally having problems with the proper heat shield ie one that came off a 97 to begin with being put on another 97 for this game but I will oblige you on it so I guess I got stuck with this part. If it's legal on one gun I don't see what makes it illegal on another gun of the same basic type. With All the things that are allowed to the 1911s that make them far from the basic gun of the day. I guess now that model 12 s are legal and available the 97 will be a smaller part of the game. Remember that is what this is.

So if the rules state civilian or military style why is a civilian converted to military illegal?