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  1. Smoother, more reliable, easier and less expensive to maintain and less expensive to purchase. Next to the venerable 870, the M1912 may be the best pump shotgun ever.
  2. Nope. There are no real safety/technical/historical issues that preclude WBers from taking part in a SASS match. There are very real political issues with some SASS groups I have learned. Your comment about "2 different shooting sports with 2 different Handbook regulations" is an excuse, not a reason.
  3. After creating this thread and taking part in its discussion, doing the same over at the SASS Wire (http://sassnet.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=227400), doing some additional reading, talking to a few more people in person and spending some time digesting all the information I have reached this conclusion: There are no real safety/technical/historical issues that preclude WBers from taking part in a SASS match. The safety/technical items that were offered as reasons for not allowing WBers to shoot SASS matches are such non-issues or so easily overcome that I personally view them as excuses. Empirical proof and logic simply doesn't allow for another conclusion. As others have pointed out it's all about "politics" and bigotry. For the record I also learned that quite a few SASS clubs DO INDEED allow WBers to take part in their matches. It was very nice to make that discovery! The resistance to allowing WBers to take part in SASS matches by some SASS groups stems from a manifold of reasons. I think the most important reason is the culture of many SASS groups. For many, assuming their western persona for a day or weekend, engaging in fellowship with their friends and simply getting away and taking part in the shoot are the primary reasons they attend SASS events. These reasons are far more important to them than competition, marksmanship, historical accuracy, etc., etc. which may (or may not) be of greater interest to a given WBer. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that -- it's largely those qualities that make SASS a success. It's just the way it is. I think difficult, even boorish behavior by some SASSers (far less common in real life than on the SASS Wire) is spawned by their desire to "keep things just as they are" because they personally conclude (even if they may not realize it) that doing so is the best way to maintain the enjoyment they currently derive from taking part in SASS events. I think SASS tolerates and even encourages such behavior to a degree because it's quite literally "good for business" -- at least for now. Clearly some individual SASS groups have wider/clearer views of this and other issues and when combined with some empirical proof they realize that there are no safety/technical/historical issues that preclude WBers from taking part in a SASS match so they allow it. Good for them! I wish I lived near such a SASS group! Thanks to everyone participating in the two threads. It was quite educational for me.
  4. Maybe in their holsters or where SASSers stage their revolvers?
  5. I would hope that any individual who is capable of ROing a SASS match should very easily be able to learn how to clear a M1911. In all actuality I would hope they would already have enough general gun knowledge...
  6. Thanks for the comments. They made me laugh -- and some made me shake my head knowingly. I don't think that there shouldn't be a separate WB group and all, but it would be nice if a solo WBer could shoot a SASS match as a WBer, simply because around here, SASS matches are common and WB matches are few and far between. I realize the targeting wouldn't be all that challenging but it would still be fun.
  7. Why doesn't SASS allow Wild Bunchers to compete in "standard" SASS matches as just another category or two? Too often it seems like the Wild Bunch is treated as a "side match." Is there a technical reason? Would a .45ACP round damage metal targets at the short distances used in SASS? If it is, could it be handled by setting a maximum power factor? Or is SASS concerned (as they seem to be when it comes to the idea adult rimfire) that too many people would matriculate from "standard" SASS to WB? Thanks.
  8. Maybe I will make-up a uniform for a SEVEN star Mexican Generalissimo AKA "Maximum Leader."
  9. I'm curious about how true-to-history WB military uniforms need to be with regard to rank? I believe the year depicted in the WB is 1913? In 1913 the US did not have a 5 star general (Pershing was a long ways away from that distinction) and it has not "really" ever had a field marshall or six star general status -- although George Washington was effectively the Field Marshall of the US. Anywho, would it be in poor taste to craft a WB costume that would depict the US Field Marshall/Six Star General of the time? All in jest of course. Just how does one choose their rank when crafting a WB military uniform? Thanks.
  10. I don't wearing "panties." Are you psychologically projecting, perchance?
  11. Gunsite? With the founder looking like this for years and years? http://www.frfrogspad.com/hat.jpg 8) But, then again, there's this: Good luck, GJ I guess the current Gunsiters don't want to look like dorks?
  12. Just button-up yer collar before a run... 99% of 3Gun, USPSA and IDPA shooters wear caps and they sling a lot of brass. Training places like Gunsite suggest a ball cap and a buttoned-up collar.
  13. width=600 height=643 http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxNDkz/$T2eC16RHJIYE9qUcOOv4BQ5I2T,HR!~~60_57.JPG[/img] A proper "newsboy" or "8 panel" cap. Not to be confused with similar but different "Ivy League", "flat" or "driving" cap.
  14. They're comfortable, light, keep the sun off and they won't shift on your head as you're running to the next position. Do you know how "cowboys" dressed around here (California) around 1900? White long-sleeved shirts which pretty much look like a man's simple dress shirt today. Clean at the beginning of the day and filthy by the end based on family photos. Some wore western hats, more it seemed wore something similar to a "trilby", a derby (yes, a derby) or a newsboy cap. The pants looked like dungarees and the boots looked like ropers or lace-up ropers. Not at all like some of the silly CAS costumes.
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