J. Frank Norfleet

Setting out you need to drop your sized and de-primed cases into the case gauge to make sure your sizing die is properly set. If you have rounds that don't gauge, then you know the problem is is either in the seating (not enough bell) or the crimping (too much).

 

I buy once fired brass off GunBroker in large lots. So most comes from police ranges and has Glock firing pin marks on the primer.  I have never used a bulge buster. Set your sizing die correctly make sure the sized round case gauges. I shoot the same rounds though my Glock as the 1911's, no problem.

 

Is your case gauge a Dillon? Dillon dies and gauges are a little larger. I shoot Colt match barrels in my 1911's and the chambers are larger. For me it is a no fail combination, Dillon and Colt. Throw in a custom barrel with a tight chamber and you are headed for grief. Use a gauge from a different maker and your Dillon sized rounds won't gauge.

 

Every die and case gauge maker and every barrel maker has different tolerances. For our game, large and loose works best for me.

JFN

No shorter than 20.5" My first one I cut to 19 7/8" and the keeper on the magazine tube goes beyond the muzzle when you take it down. Irritating!

JFN

Watch out for the duck guns. Rarely does the 3" chamber work.

JFN

You mean one like this? Last night I couldn't sleep so I looked up what a Philippine Constabulary Krag carbine was. Wow, it looked really familiar. I bought this from a widow when I was in college. I just thought is was a weird short Krag.

JFN

In a couple matches I shot mine I had the 5 reloads standing on a table. Just grabbed all 5 and dropped them in.

The Norwegians used them in competition and developed a speed loader. They are impossible to buy but a handy person could make one. Boggus has mine, maybe he'll produce them.

JFN

I'm not selling, but you might want to tell folks if you shoot Modern or Traditional.

JFN

Trooper that is great news!

Those of us from Up Over miss seeing you.

JFN

Talk to Boggus Deal.

I like my front strap checkering.

JFN

 

Big thanks to the Nellie and Dusty for your moderating and a pleasure to shoot with both of you in years past.

 

Nellie, I was surprised years ago to find out that in a former life you had worked on a neighboring ranch with a good friends of mine. They are still on the Bonita, so if you are ever back in the area you need stop by.

JFN

 

 

Is it a 12 stage match or a 6 stage match?

Looking at the schedule there are 3 morning stages and 3 afternoon stages each day. I wondered if the shooters were being split into morning shooters and afternoon shooters.

JFN

I don't know where you would be shooting but at the club level your equipment does not have to be 100% correct to shoot local matches and have fun. When I started, I had a Series 70 Colt, kydex gear, a .22 lever rifle and a 1200 pump shotgun. The only thing legal was the pistol.

At higher level matches you can shoot but your score won't be counted. If you are a beginner and learning the game that's no big deal, have fun and shoot.

Someone from the Rules committee will answer your questions specifically. From my perspective I don't have to change the rules to shoot the game and enjoy it. But if they start making exceptions for gear used in USPSA, I have some Glocks I'd like to shoot.

JFN

Yep, excellent match. Nice to see you and meet Penny.

 

So Two Dot, it would be nice to the results of that match.

And, I hope you reached the 80 shooter limit, especially with no WR.

JFN

From the WBAS Shooters Handbook:

 

•Magazines must be standard length and may be loaded with up to seven rounds.

Overloaded rounds that are fired are scored as “illegally acquired” ammunition.

• A base pad may be added to the magazine if it meets the following requirements: It must be made from natural leather material only. It must be no larger than the contour of the base of the magazine. The total thickness of the pad may not extend

more than 1/4" beyond the original base plate.

 

You can use a standard length 8 round magazine, i.e. flush with the bottom of the grip. You will eventually overload it and suffer the penalty. The overloading penalty is the least of your worries, I'd worry more about moving with the 8th round in the chamber and getting a SDQ or worse having an AD.

Pads must be leather.

JFN

It's Valentines Day and here I am in a ground blizzard in NM; snow, 35 mph wind, 0 degrees with a windchill of -24. It's 61 degrees and sunny in AZ at the state WB match at Cowtown. Sorry I couldn't shoot with you.

 

Because it is February 14, I am seeing all these memes celebrating the birthday of the 1911 as February 14, 1911. That is one of the patent dates roll stamped on slides of many 1911s. That patent date is actually for JMBs prototype, the Model 1909. The patent date for the 1911, as we know it, is August 19, 1913, the last patent date stamped on the slide.

 

I know that how? I spent a lot of time on an article for the Cowboy Chronicle on the patent dates and the history of the 1911. Since it is in the online only version, nobody read it and I am making a shameless plug (pages 46-48).

 

https://www.sassnet.com/Downloads/20eChron/20OctChronGO.pdf

 

One of my motivations for writing the article was to show that the 1911 was developed as a cavalry pistol. JMB designed it so that it could be de-cocked and cocked with one hand. He envisioned it to be carried hammer down on a live round, like the single action pistol it would replace. Only at the insistence of the ordinance department did he add a thumb safety on the final version of the pistol.

 

The history of the pistol is right there, stamped on the slide.

JFN

Thank you,

I was hoping they would open it up to WB only, especially with only 35 shooters registered so far.

JFN

Since I live in dry, dusty New Mexico I rarely use oil on my rifle and shotgun. When I unload for a match, I get my can of One Shot "Clean and Lube" and spray the action, rack, rack, rack and spray again. Leaves a dry film that doesn't attract dust. You're good to go.

JFN

Dusty is a great writer. Sadly, the online version is rarely read.

JFN

So, if the shooter dumps the, illegal, rounds into the berm it's a p and a miss? What target did he miss? What target did he use the illegal ammo on?

I know WBAS is different, but when you say WBAS uses the same interpretation of Illegally Acquired Ammunition and the penalties, excepting leaving live rounds in the, discarded, rifle, P plus 3 misses is incorrect.

 

Well, he didn't hit a target so he missed when the round hit the berm.

You can never tell what a shooter was intending to hit. This isn't hard, lever them out or make sure there is no round in the chamber when you ground the rifle.

JFN

There are many ways to rack the slide. Most guys sling shot it. But this is what I teach the ladies in my CCW classes:

 

For a right handed shooter. Grip and draw the pistol with your right hand. Place your left hand on the slide, all four fingers and thumb either in front of or behind the ejection port. (Ask Kid Rich about covering the ejection port.) Your thumb is towards you on the left side of the slide and fingers on the right side. Brace the left forearm against your stomach and and hold it there. With your right hand push the pistol out of the left hand with out moving the forearm from your stomach. The closer to your body the more strength you have and the farther away you strength decreases dramatically.

 

BTW I use Boggus's hammer and firing pin retainer along with a reduced main spring and recoil spring.

JFN

Got my SASS membership renewal today. Says that it includes the online Cowboy Chronicle. Is there no more printed Chronicle?

HI Gang; Is it true that in other gun games a single DQ is always a match DQ, put your gun away you are done for the day?

 

Other shooting sports allow you to shoot on the move, draw a cocked and locked pistol, shoot unlimited rounds and etc. A lot of differences.

JFN

Thank you Tully and Two Dot,

Since I don't shoot cowboy, I didn't think to look there.

That's a fair assessment for a SDQ.

JFN

Thank you Two Dot, where did you find that? I went through the three manuals this morning and couldn't find it.

JFN

With the change to total time I am still confused about how a SDQ is to be scored. Stage Points gave an honest assessment of an SDQ by awarding no points. TT has always been a double penalty. Not only do you get no time (first penalty), you are assessed a massive number of seconds to make sure the "no time" doesn't work to your advantage (second penalty). So the double penalty of a SDQ essentially became a MDQ, but you get to keep shooting.

 

I remember there was supposed to be a formula to be created for a fairer assessment of the second penalty. But maybe I missed it, which is why I'm asking.

 

JFN "stirrin' things up again"