August West

A dirty firing pin channel can bind a firing pin to the point where it will ignite a primer when the action of a firearm is closed.  I've always assumed this was the inspiration for the invention of Q-Tips.

Since small pistol primers in the .45 a.c.p. are such a vexation to me, it saddens me to read discussions that justify their existence. Sigh....

Same to you, Buddy.

FJ,

 

Here's a link to the Wild Bunch Action Shooting rules. 

 

http://www.sassnet.com/Downloads/Wild%20Bunch%20Handbook%20v8.pdf

 

If you'll read pages 4 & 5, your questions about pistol configuration will be answered.

Hard to believe there are any of them left after all the ones they distributed in the 1960s.

 

At least I know how to fix everything on them!  But, actually, in 6 years, only a startup glitch on one and the others have been perfect.  Shorten the mag spring and away you go.

 

Tempting fate, eh?

Note that the Model 12 Featherlite only holds four rounds in the magazine and, therefore, is unsuitable for WB.

 

Also, it seems, Winchester's tooling was getting very ragged near the end of production as they tried to keep the model going against the intense competition ($$$) from the 870.  So, brooches and even tool heads were used beyond the point of being worn out.  Check out 1,8xx,xxx+ guns thoroughly inside the receiver.

In our "Open Class", you might find:

 

1. People shooting a second time during the match for practice

2. People without the proper firearms

3. People who do not have firearms in the proper calibers

4. People who are knowingly shooting ammunition below required power factor

5. People who do not wish to compete, but only practice

 

At our matches, 'Open' shooters get a total time, but are not in competition with any other participant.

So you remove the slide release button and assembly?

 

That would be very unsafe.  The gun will not lock up without the slide release assembly working properly.  Please do not consider doing that to your Model 12.  No gunsmith would consider such a modification.

Yup, that's the way it is supposed to work.  The gun was designed at a time when ammunition was no where near as dependable as what we have today.  So, if the gun did not recoil normally, it would not unlock for the next round to be chambered.  This was built into the design of the gun to prevent firing a second round on top of a blocked barrel.

 

When you fire the gun with live ammunition, it will unlock as you expect it to.

With no cylinder gap, that 1911 is sure quiet when a squib occurs.  Had the headphones on -- and turned up -- but the squibb didn't sound much louder than a normal hammer fall.  Glad the shooter stopped on his own -- I sure wasn't any help in the situation as the R/O.

 

Shooter said he was using magnum primers.  But, the ball didn't get very far down the barrel.

 

Be careful out there (though, it's me that needs that advice).

We'll miss you, Pard.  Hope all is well.

 

Some really come too close IMO, but if they pass, they pass.

 

 

Tom:

 

I've heard you say this on several occasions.  Each time you say it, I wonder if the particular shooters you are referencing have been told their loads are down on the floor according to the match chronograph?

 

I know what my loads do on my chronograph and others that have been available to me.  But, when I hear you make this comment, I always wonder about the results of official chronograph tests.

 

A.W.  (Who thinks he's running at PF-165)

I heard someone say that the "new" "concept" was that a shooter had to finish a shooting string in the same position as where it was started.

 

I dunno if that's the intent of the "new" rule or not.  Just something I heard a noted TG report.

 

As I watch basketball as it is played these days, I wonder what has happened to the basketball traveling rule -- in basketball.  But, of course, that's another story.

 

R.I.P. James Naismith.

What was/is the thinking of the rules committee about handling a drawn pistol that has been drawn out of leather at the wrong point in a stage?

 

The thing that happened was a shooter pulled the pistol clear of leather, had not yet racked the slide, realize rifle was the gun that should be fired rather than pistol.  I understand the pistol cannot go back to leather and that it must be open and empty to stage it on the table.

 

But (sorry about that, here it comes), it seems the pistol is just one of three firearms that is uncocked with an empty chamber at this point -- as safe as any of the guns at the line.

 

What safety issue did the committee anticipate that requires opening and emptying the pistol before setting it down at this point?  (or, even putting it back in the holster for that matter -- but, I won't ask that one).

 

Thanks for helping me to make this rule logical so that I can remember it and explain it when next required to do so.

Beautiful.  Thanks for sharing.

 

What are some of the things I need to be aware of before getting going.

 

Frenchy

 

First, you must contact your insurance carrier and inform them of what you intend to do.  Then, you have to be sure your  incorporation papers accommodate this new activity and protect the leaders..

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

 

-Herbert Spencer

http://www.worldwarsupply.com/cart/image/cache/data/american/283/283_0_1963-500x500.png

 

That's the way they made 'em from the beginning.

You've already been a part of that discussion:

 

http://sassnet.com/wildbunch/forum/index.php?topic=1335.0

When the cleaning gets tough, the Tough get out their stainless steel bore brushes.