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    whuzzup?

    in The Wild Bunch Wire

    Posted

    I'm ready... after I load ammo, clean mags, and get the front sight on my 1911 restaked!!!

     

    Front Sight? Are we to use a front sight?  Maybe I didn't read all of the instructions.

    It's one of those "iffy" things... If I use it... I slow down;  If I don't... I miss!

    What is the interest in BAM Matches?

    in The Wild Bunch Wire

    Posted

    Price ain't necessarily the issue, simply finding one.  I'd buy a junker (at junker prices) & fix it, but seems the ones I see, they want "new, unfired" prices for junk.

     

    Have you tried looking at Ammo Depot? I haven't been in there in a while, but he used to have many surplus Nagants and Mausers of various sorts. Just down the road from you a half mile off 30, between Rockwall and Greenville.

     

    http://www.ammodepottx.com/firearms--optics.html#sthash.TQz0A1kJ.dpbs

    Really lookin' for an 03A3, and, yea, I stop in there from time to time...  BTW, have missed seein' you the past few shoots. 

    What is the interest in BAM Matches?

    in The Wild Bunch Wire

    Posted

    I'm a dedicated levergunner... and feel I'm at no disadvantage (or advantage) using a rifle caliber levergun.  Been looking for a correct bolt gun to compete... hate borrowing other people's stuff... but, opening it up to period leverguns (no mods but sights... and I mean NONE), as well as military bolt guns WILL increase participation.

    HEY! Dusty.

    in The Wild Bunch Wire

    Posted

    Thanks for a great match yesterday.  I especially liked the LAST stage!  But, we should have included the 'Star' again... since no one accepted my apparent challenge to shoot it backwards on the stage before!!! :P ;D ;D

    Rifle question

    in The Wild Bunch Wire

    Posted

    As Dusty said, no problem making PF with the C45S.  My Marlin has a 17" barrel, cut back from the factory 20", but... being an octagon, it swings nice & smooth.  The C45S Marlin conversion is easy, just build up the bottom of the carrier so it rises sooner... but, that timing is critical, I probably took the rifle apart and put it back together a few hundred times before it was "almost perfect"!  Perfect would have been if I could get it to still feed 45Colts!

     

    I tend not to use the rifle much since the brass became so expensive... even tho' I currently have lots... it still dwindles pretty rapidly.  Depending on where you're shooting, you might lose more or less, but I just shot a 6 stage match using one of my 45Colt rifles, and out of a possible 60 rounds, I think I came home with 52. 

     

    No worries Dusty, because I came home with some extra 45ACPs!!!  And, the opposite is true of those in the 45Colt shellplate... it pushes 'em up in the sizer just fine... but lacks some of the needed "grip" to pull them back out!!!  ::)

     

    BTW, did you save me that piece of brass?  ;)

    Starting to load for WB

    in Reloading for Wild Bunch

    Posted

    Posted Today, 06:48 AM

    I want to keep this simple. I will be using Red Dot powder and 200 Gr. LRNFP for both pistol and rifle (as I said, I want to keep it simple) Need starting point on OAL for the ACP rounds, and same for 45LC. I will be using a Marlin 94C. All ACP brass is large primer. Don't want to get into discussion about different powder or bullets. This is what I have and what I want to shoot. PM me with load data.  Your input will be appreciated.

    I load both my 45Colt & 45ACP with RedDot &, the SAME 200 LRNFP bullet.  (IIRC, these are cast with a Magma Engineering mold # 45-200-BB, the bevel is VERY small).  Seating depth may vary on different bullets, but mine are seated to a point where they just cover the crimp groove on the bullets I buy.  OAL is 1.177"  I don't crimp them beyond the start of the ogive, as then the crimp may be too great for them to headspace properly.  USE a case gauge.  I've had no trouble with them making power factor here locally.  A different altitude may require a different formula.

     

    I find that I need to flare the mouth of the 45ACP a tad more than with the jacketed HPs I also load in that cartridge.  In the ACP I use 4.0 grains and in the 45Colt I use 6.0 grains.  In the 45Colt I crimp at the forward edge of the groove, in order to facilitate them feeding thru a variety of 45Colt rifles.  OAL on these are 1.566" and feed thru an 1860, two different era 1873s and a Rossi 1892. 

     

    To keep it really simple, I've also used the C45S brass for a rifle retimed for it... so I can keep my powder charge bullet and dies all the same, just change the shellplate on my Dillon.  But, that brass has become rather expensive and now I keep it for cowboy loads in the pistol.  But, boy, was that good while it lasted.

     

    Lyman's 49th Cast Bullet Handbook list 45Colt rifle loads using RedDot, at a minimum of 5.6 grains for 1002 and a max of 7.0 for 1176 fps.  This is listed as out of a Winchester 94AE with a 16" barrel.  However, 45Colt rifle chambers are generous... and below 6.0 grains I've been too close for comfort on the power factor.  Sized at .452 isn't a problem, as I've found that if my front sight has been on the target, the bullet arrived there also.

     

    My actual velocities from my guns varies from that quite a bit.  I thought I had a chart of actual velocities, but it's for a different bullet & charge.

     

    Did find a pic of the bullet, 4th from left:

    http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/sass93/45bullets.jpg

     

    Slingshot 1911 Slide Releases Causing Blood Blisters

    in The Wild Bunch Wire

    Posted

    Actually, the weight of the extended slide release makes it very easy to overcome the magazine spring's tension forcing it up with the mag follower and a failure to lock back occurs.  Some of the new ones are so big, it might move too slowly to move it up into the notch.  Why mine are trimmed from their original configuration slightly.

     

    Because they are so, comparatively speaking, it's very easy for a shooter the apply enough upward pressure to lock the slide back during recoil.  Seen here on my "parts gun" (no, it's not a WB gun!!!):

    http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/sass93/DSCN08361.jpg

     

    power factor/magazine question

    in The Wild Bunch Wire

    Posted

    I'll probably quit shooting cowboy shortly. If that is the WIld Bunch match in Bend hosted by the Horse Ridge Pistoleros, that is a heck of a match. Little Italy, Sunrise Bill and Texas Jack Morales put on a great time! Just look out for Last Chance Morales! His gun has a broken sear! It absolutely cannot shot that fast!

    What I say about Dusty Boddems.

    Slingshot 1911 Slide Releases Causing Blood Blisters

    in The Wild Bunch Wire

    Posted

    I use the slide stop to release the slide.  I do have extended stops on my 3-Gun 1911 and my EDC 1911, both are from the very early '80s, made by Pachmyer.  They're quite a bit smaller than what I've seen lately.  The one on my EDC has been on it for nearly 35 years, and have never had it fail to lock back with good magazines.  (The problem most experts seem to predict will happen).  I had to run many, many drills getting used to the timing of slamming in a magazine and releasing the slide.  All my WB 1911s run a stock slide release.

     

    With the Modern two-handed style, I don't even think about using my strong hand thumb to release the slide, it just happens naturally as my weak hand comes up the supporting grip position.

    Small Primer vs Large Primer Comparison

    in Reloading for Wild Bunch

    Posted

    AW & GJ sorry for the misunderstanding.  I posted the above for information only.  Since I shoot primarily small primer brass, I have been asked if there is a difference in velocity.  While I felt that small primer brass lowered the velocity, I had never compared them side by side.  My only fallacy in the test is that the primers are not all from the same manufacturer; as, I am now wondering if all Winchester primers are "hotter."

     

    So let me be clear.  I don't feel the need nor compunction to justify a superior brass to you or anyone else. :)

    JFN

    8) 8) 8)
    Aye, just how much difference is there between WLP & WSP primers.

     

    And while I abhor the fact that my press slams to a halt, (ok, so it just interrupts my process), when it encounters a SP hole that slipped thru my sorting process... let us not forget that well beyond the advent of SAAMI, the ubiquitous .38 Special was formed in cases using a LARGE primer...  So it's not like there isn't a precedence for changing a cartridge from big to small primers.  Just give me a reason that justifies such change besides, "it's good for the environment..."  Because yoohoo... we introducing LEAD into the ground... Oh wait... that's where it comes from!!!

     

    JFN, superior in what way... I'll grant you that the smaller primer hole might make for a stronger case...  But, if there's any significance to the difference might be arguable.

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