El Mulo Vaquero

Well said GJ

Well with our club trying to run dedicated monthly WB in the 4 Corners for 4 1/2 years now, as WB is now, we will have to change something or it will end. Trying to draw new shooters, low turnout. It is too much work setting up a good match (yes it is much more involved than CAS) month after month for the turnout WE have., There has been no support from SASS or WB at all. I wish I had better club news to report I am sure other clubs are having their own struggles as well. As it stands now, WB will remain a side match, locally, nationally, world, perhaps. I just think of what WB could be.....and no I don't have all the answers. If your clubs can shoot it as is, and everyone loves it, ENJOY IT. It certainly is a volatile subject to be sure!

+1 :)

"With the level of expertise with the 1911 that many new WBAShooters display, I feel it is a very good thing we never use the safety and never have the pistol cocked and locked. Just too chancy. Makes me shudder to think about and consider..." In other shooting sports, under supervised match conditions, this has never been a problem...............Even in CAS, we have 2 revolvers to draw, cock, shoot, reholster (OMG)..and yet we let first time shooters come out. I believe it is this mentality that has led to the "dummying down" of the 1911, and other firearms in WB. I also think it is in part responsible for the declining numbers, slow growth/attracting new shooters, and poor attendance at WB matches.

I believe Gene is looking for serious input and ideas to work with the committee to help in the growth of WB. I sent him the post below, and have since had a good positive conversation with him about this. I would encourage others to as well! Gene, after reading some of the wild bunch wire post under 7 rounds in magazine thread, I was going to post this below, but then thought better to just send it to you, and prevent the wire repercussions. So, what I am hearing from the "committee" members is it doesn't really matter to them to shoot 5 or 7. Dressing up is holding back new shooters. Don't ask to change the rules, just shoot. Exposure to the sport is lacking. After looking at MANY monthly scores across the southwest, including some of the shooters clubs represented here, as well as our own monthly...we can barely muster much more than half a dozen shooters. WHY wouldn't we look to have some change, even to eliminate outsiders perception of the sport, such as the 5 round rule change..or ANY other changes that might attract any new shooters. Our club is part of a larger 1000+ member shooting range, we have promoted at general meetings, shot\promoted with IPSC,Idpa, 3 gun, and we have yet to recruit any new members. We had a couple IPSC shooters come, but they have since stopped. The shooters we have are from CAS. We have shot stand alone WB matches since its inception, (4 years now) advertised in the WB match section (some 3000 views), and have yet to have any WB visitors. We are down to asking for rsvp's for match attendance to be sure we have anybody show up. I am being blatantly honest here with my post, and frustrated about our future. I believe if there is going to be any growth, there must be some change or ideas, at this point in the game.

WHAT!! No 10 pages of posts about wearing Jeans! :D I have seen ER shoot in Blue Jeans many, many times. Its all good.

I would prefer the 7 round mag. It doesn't have to increase round counts per stage or match. And dare I say, we don't have to think in terms of "sweeps" either, or all steel targets. Paper IPSC targets scored like IMGA 3gun with two hits anywhere in the perforation, or one A hit....there are other possibilities....if we want to be separated from cowboy with a 1911. Some stages just pistol, some pistol shotgun, etc, mix it up. Just thinkin'.....for our next match.