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"Single Stack" is the name of the division, but it is 100% 1911 Single Stacks, no other gun is allowed. As I agreed with, however, according to USPSA Single Stack rules. Major calibers are 40 S&W, 10mm, .45acp. 8 round mags Minor calibers are .38 super, 9mm. 10 round mags. Of those who shot USPSA Single Stack Championship, 2/18/26, how many use something other than a .45acp? According to USPSA 106 used the Major PF while 129 used the Minor pf. Maybe I'm confusing Base pad with Base plate. Most mags have a welded base plate, to which is fastened a base pad. Some are leather, legal in SASS, others are plastic, aluminum, rubber, etc, which are not legal in SASS. You pays your money, you play by the rules. Don't like the rules? Lobby to have the changed.

USPSA multi-gun is essentially dead. The serious shooters are using other rules, not a good comparison. For whatever reason, people who enjoy that sport prefer not to use hit factor scoring. I don't know a single person who is shooting USPSA multi gun anymore and I haven't heard anyone talking about it in years, maybe a decade or more. Personally, I abandoned all forms of multi gun shooting outside of SASS a long time ago. I decided that stuffing shotgun shells into a magazine tube was not something I want to be timed doing. By "basepad" I mean something that actually makes a difference, not a 1/4" piece of leather. It helps, but it's not even remotely comparable to a modern magazine with an actual basepad. And just FYI, almost all of the major pf shooters there were shooting a .45 ACP. A few here and there might be shooting 40 S&W but it is not popular, I only saw one person doing it. The "Classic .45 ACP" distinction is not a USPSA category and I don't know why that box was even on the application. "Single Stack" is the name of the division, but it is 100% 1911 Single Stacks, no other gun is allowed.

For all you big bore guys, there is a really nice 38-40 on gunbroker right now....Would make a nice main match Classic Wild Bunch Rifle. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1180623542 I'd me in if I didn't have one. WK

Single Stack, being the operative word. USPSA allows .38 cal for all Divisions except Major (.40cal) Well, according to, both, USPSA and Practiscore, 235 shooters finished, 11 others DQ'd. As it, also, lists Classic .45acp, I'm assuming that refers to those who shot .45acp vs .38, 9mm, etc Based on Practiscore information: You finished 113rd, Minor PF (125pf) Wild Bunch is more like USPSA multi gun. At the last USPSA Multi Gun Championship, there were 122, registered, shooters, down from 188 the year before. Again, most Wild Bunch shooters use base pads. Leather base pads. Some shooters do shoot with no base pad, I know a couple. According to them, their magazines seat better without a base pad. They're top shooters so I'm not going to tell them they're wrong. It works for them.

There were 330 shooters that signed up for the match. "Classic .45 ACP" is not a category, I don't know why they put that there. Nobody was shooting anything other than a 1911 at that match (the production match was held the day before, 27 stages in 3 days!) And no, it wasn't a wild bunch match, there has never been a wild bunch match held anywhere that had this number of shooters. Precisely zero were using welded basepad magazines without basepads because they're a pain.

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WIsh all of you guys could of made it. I would put the raffle prize table up against any wild bunch shoot in the nation. It is EPIC. see ya at the regional.

He might be referring to the Western States Single Stack Championship at Rio Salado, February 18, 2026. There were 224 shooters finish the match, of which, 73 were in "Classic .45acp". The others were some other version of single stack pistol Western States Single Stack Championship 2026 | PractiScore

Just out of curiosity where was the "1911" match??? Was it a Wild Bunch Match or some other discipline that used 1911's. Marshal Stone

Y'all have really shown me why so many parents have gone to home schooling. I really hope you're not in any instructor position, because you suck at it.

Now,now boys! 😁

I am not mad because you don't agree with me, I simply keep pointing out the FDACTS of the situation!!! You keep demanding that SASS change THEIR game to accommodate YOU!!!! You constantly say you don't understand what the rules are about. Time and time again two RO Instructor tell you to take the classes and even point out the PROPER way to get rules modified. You, however, continue with you adolescent whining and tirades against the established rules. It is not just this post, it is every post you are involved with, both here and on the SASS Wire. You are a chronic malcontent!!!!!!

I don't see where I demanded anything. I bought another couple sets of mags and forgot about the issue until a like minded person started this thread to start the conversation. You're the one who decided to come to a thread you don't like and express your distaste. You're just mad because I dared disagree with you. If I could take the SASS people there, I would certainly go and check it out. I have equipment for a lot of games. I don't see how Wild Bunch would be materially altered by letting at least the modern shooters who are allowed to use ambies, adjustable sights, front serrations, beavertails, and pretty much everything else I use on my USPSA gun besides a magwell would be so bummed out about being able to use a magazine with a basepad. I already knocked my front sight off and replaced it and removed my magwell. Maybe not having to buy another set of magazines on top of that wouldn't have been asking for too much?

Looking forward to it!

Well, you could alway go over to Historic 3 Gun, they allow any material for base pads, and leave the Wild Bunch shooters alone.

There is not a damn thing you could teach anyone! All you do is demand that an established organization change THEIR game to meet your requirements.

My Dawson 1911 basepads that I use regularly in USPSA are aluminum, so if that's the concern, that could easily be alleviated. Tripp Cobramags can be ordered with aluminum basepads already installed. If the issue is plastic, the solution to that is simple and already available, and already in use by people in every other shooting sport where 1911s are popular.

I don't have anything to do with the WB rules, as I was Retired/fired from the job a few years ago, but I will add a little thing that hasn't brought up. SASS as an orginaztion does NOT allow any plastic parts on any firearms where you can see them. (exception handgun grips)So plastic base pads fall outside any SASS organized competetion rules.

You should also show up to a match and I'll show you how to shoot wild bunch, without my modern magazines.

Read the rules, take the SASS RO classes. Then follow the rules, and don't be like El Chapo and expect the rules to be changed to suit you and your wishes. It really is very simple, play the game by the written rules.

It's a totally legitimate question and suggestion, don't be discouraged. But yeah, anytime you tell people that certain ancient standards should be modernized, it's like you kicked the hornet's nest. with many of these people. This isn't the first time or context where you will see this sort of response. Just search "power factor" or "classic" or "open category" around here and read what resulted when there were minor changes to the rules that changed nothing for the people who were already shooting WB.

Because somehow my opinion would be better than yours if I met your preconceived standard? You're the one hurling insults at someone who dares have a different opinion than you.

Despite my best efforts to ask a simple question without causing a battle, I failed. I must say that bickering like this is far worse for the game than any rules or changes. I think anyone reading this who was considering WB has run off like their hair was on fire. And Seth, I’m getting a little slower every day:) see you at the Muster!

Just trying to ascertain your credentials in wild bunch. If you want to be this way, ok, bye.

I stand by my comment!!! Your attitude is counterproductive to the advancement of this game. The game has rules, play by those rules. They evolved after years of people with your attitude, and worse, drove hundreds of shooters away. Misty, and the Board has worked hard to enact changes that MANY shooters were begging for. Shooters are coming back to WB, I became an instructor for WB because I believe in what is being done. Quit acting like a spoiled crybaby, play the game and encourage people to have fun, instead of your constant stream of vitrol you spew because we are not a cookie cutter of every other action handgun game you claim to excel at!!!!!!!!!