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Actually, if it's not in the WBSHB you use the CASSHB. If it's not specifically addressed in the WB Material, but is in the CAS, then the CAS takes precedence.

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As has been pointed out, the SASS SHB does not apply to Wild Bunch or to Wild Bunch side matches. You have to use the WB Handbook. From the WBAS pg 6 The 1895 Winchester and the Savage 99 originals or reproductions along with period correct receiver mounted peep sights are legal for Teddy Roosevelt. Note the part about receiver mounted peep sights being period correct. IMHO the Skinner receiver mounted peep sight is not period correct and would not be legal for Teddy Roosevelt. There is no mention of barrel mounted peep sights being legal for TR. Therefore by convention barrel mounted peep sights are not legal for TR as they are not period correct.

@Blastin Brad @woody Shootem Thanks Boonie for a great weekend and event. The weather started out cool but it couldn't have been better. A great fall event and was happy I could participate. Thank you and the club for sponsoring it and Brad for doing the stages even if he stole some of them from Woody! I really look forward to attending again next year and plan on bringing some friends, but only the ones I can outshoot. I want to mention how challenging and enjoyable the stages were. I'm not used to missing so many shotgun targets so I better practice up for 2026.

Not yet.

Is your receiver tapped for a tang mount?

Thank you all, yes, my first choice would be a receiver mounted peep, but no one is making new ones and the ones I have been able to find are either hideously over priced or are beaten to death junk. The Skinner appeared to be my best option.

I will stand corrected for Skinner sights being used for cowboy shooting - I was looking at the 2024 version of the Cowboy rules. But, the 2025 rules change the playing field! Opening a 2025 version, I see that newly added rule expressly prohibiting barrel or receiver mounted peep sights. But the discussion here is for Teddy Roosevelt, a Wild Bunch category, where receiver peep sights ARE allowed. Nothing like new rules and exceptions to them. Yep, here's the WB applicable section - Wow, the complexity just keeps on boiling up. good luck, GJ

SHB pg.36 "Rifle sights" says no barrel or receiver mounted peep sights.

Guess that the Skinner barrel-mounted peep would NOT be legal for Long Range matches, since they are not open sights mounted on barrel. But I find nothing that makes them illegal for ANY other rifles. And, the Plainsman section of the cowboy rule book has no restriction that is additional to any cowboy match restrictions. Normally, receiver mounted sights of any design are illegal on SASS rifles, but since so many of the original lever action hunting rifles had receiver sights added, sounds like the Rules Committee made an exception for TR matches. But this rule would not PREVENT you from using the Skinner barrel peep, as far as I know. However, a receiver mounted sight would be my PERSONAL choice over the Skinner (for several reasons). good luck, GJ

It says period correct reciever mounted peep sight is legal for Teddy Roosevelt

I am not sure...since it is a peep sight

Why aren't they legal for Plainsman in CAS? As on an H&R Buffalo Classic.

Because it is barrel mounted, yes, it's legal for any SASS sponsored match. good luck, GJ

Okay, I'm picking up a Savage 99 and plan on using it in Teddy Roosevelt. Would this sight be legal? https://skinnersights.com/collections/rossi/products/universal-barrel-mount-peep-sight

Yep, me at EoT several years ago. 0.1 ozs overweight. Slim grips fitted!! See Happy Jacks last two sentences!! Jim

YES I weighed guns at matches for years. I had a few go overweight and the shooter fixed them or changed guns. That was when we would weigh them before a match if asked. I remember after we went to weighing them during the match and they failed. Then the person could shoot the remaining stages if they wished but for no score for the match.

Thank you all for your comments.

I've seen a gun that was too heavy in Traditional back about 2011. Shooter brought out his backup. He carried on. good luck, GJ

I’ve not DQd a shooter but I made them swap guns. Just like a very nice lady whose husband had given her a liteweight Kimber to shoot. She did not speak English and had no idea. Her husband was an a*^. If he had been shooting the gun, I would have DQd him.

I have wanted a Savage 99 since I was a kid reading Roy Chapman Andrews' exploits in China and Mongolia. But prices kept going higher and higher on them. But we had a shooter grade one come in to the LGS I work part time at, so I put it on layaway. It will be next month before I pay it off, but I am stoked to get it. It's in .300 Savage, so reloading is on tap for it. Hopefully I can use it in Teddy Roosevelt shooting and not embarrass myself too much.

I have not heard of it happening. I would think that it would only come up in the Modern Class with a railed gun possibly not making weight.

I'm curious if anyone is aware of a shooter's 1911 being disqualified for overweight at a WB match?

A question was raised at Land Run during the warmup, so the match director specifically addressed it in the main match shooter’s meeting as allowed/legal. There is nothing in the rules about it, and I would have a hard time arguing against it when I look at original issued 1911 holsters.