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What was the basis for that call?

You have to be on the firing line to determine "breaking the 170." Looking at a video is NOT the way to judge it. I'll trust the eye witnesses who were right there. good luck, GJ

The pistol flipped over (didn't rotate) and it doesn't look like it's breaking the 170°. It's close but I personally don't think it is....

MSV was called. There was discussion on how the pistol got into the position. Should be SDQ. As for the finger at the start. I had it pinned to the top front side of the trigger guard where it meets the frame. Totes

There is no rule about keeping the trigger finger off the trigger when initially charging the pistol. The only finger rule is; when changing mags, moving, correcting malfunctions. WBAS SHB Pg 14 "When handling the 1911, the shooter’s trigger finger must be outside the trigger guard when moving, reloading, or clearing a malfunction after the pistol is first charged." No call on the trigger finger. SDQ on the 1911 after the rifle smacked it, though.

I couldn't discern the trigger finger. But agree with SDQ for breaking the 170 with the pistol. What was the actual call?

I couldn't tell if the finger was in the trigger guard at the start or along side the frame...as at the second position. I shoot traditional...and sometimes get yelled at for finger...but what I am doing is hitting the mag release

Broke the 170, SDQ Hard to see at the start, what about the finger on the trigger while racking the slide?

Scenario is irrelevant. Watch the pistol when the rifle is discarded. WTC? WB_WTC.MP4

Don't have my load data readily available but I've had great success with TightGroup.

Out of what powders you have, TiteGroup will run the 1911 better over a wide range of loads. The best 1911 powders IME, and also classics, are WST, Unique and Bullseye. good luck, GJ

Holster made custom by Slickbald Customs $150 shipped Colt MK IV Series 70 9mm barrel 5” $100 shipped

7 in the top 10 were shooting .38s 12 in the top 20 were shooting .38s

Didn't seem to help anyone at EoT. We'll see with more match data.

If you run a slower powder, you may just have to bump up the load a bit to get enough slide speed. Where you're at isn't the worst choice, but W231 is better suited to 9mm powder capacity than a huge, low pressure case.

CLAYS? Yeah like it’s readily available… I have: TITEWad, TrailBoss, Titegroup, W231, CFE P, HS6, N320. Not real interested in adding yet another powder.

I may not have the extensive shooting experience or resume of others on this thread, but, having timed it on numerous occasions, there is slightly more than a 1/2 second advantage for me on a 10 shot string, using my .38/357 rifle and loads. Over 10 stages that is quite significant. YMMV. Cheers, FJT

This is a forum, not an airport. There's no need to announce your departure.

I'm glad you have so much success with your target. All steel moves when hit, that's the nature of the beast. Not every club uses AR500 steel. 150PF Rifle, is not a factor in whether clubs, or shooters, don't shoot WB. It's desire only. Shooters can use any SASS legal, .38 and above, rifle and shotgun. Rock Island offers a GI 1911 for 659.00. You can find them cheaper. It's desire, nothing else. And I'm done with this conversation

Blacksmiths are not hitting steel with lead. I have AR500 that has been shot way more than 460 times and it has one ding--from the 20 prac at 3800 fps.

Ditto. The sport looked interesting but I wasn’t interested in spending the money on a .40 cal rifle I would only use for wild bunch. The addition of .38 cal rifles opened up the ability to participate.

Spent many years blacksmithing on steel. You hit a piece of steel 28 times x 20 shooters, the steel reacts differently than hitting it 8 times x 20 shooters. Don't believe it? Grab a piece of 3/8 steel, ar or not, and hit it 460 times and hit another 160 times. Then do this 12 more times. See what the steel tells you. Steel doesn't lie.

Really? Can you show me the numbers? EOT was the most attended. Landrun, when they actually accept WB will be next. Bordertown, for a side match, sells out.

Doubt that is the problem based on the symptom. If you limp wristed it probably would stovepipe. If it ejects, there should be enough energy to feed. The powders you're using are also not ideal for lower velocity .45 Auto, you really should consider using something faster like Clays or something close to it in the burn rate chart if you want to do that, or bumping up the load a bit, it will be more reliable.

Chapo, it seems you are correct about my assumptions from last night! I spent the afternoon at the range again and frankly, now I think the main problem is Limp Wrist syndrome. today, both handguns locked up on me multiple times using my reloads. But Wait it happened again when I used the commercial rounds and I noticed a more significant muzzle flip. As I’ve said in earlier posts, the 1911 is a brand new platform for me and getting data on my reloads led me to use a pistol rest such that I could position my Athlon chrono right under the muzzle. So I reloaded all of the bad rounds into a mag and assumed the correct position and my Ruger and then my Taurus ate every round and 150 more without another issue. As such, I apparently wasn’t necessarily supporting the pistol properly and noticed how much my wrist was flexing with the heavier recoil from the commercial loadsIt seems that this recoil operated monster can’t handle a limp wrist