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I am not mad because you don't agree with me, I simply keep pointing out the FDACTS of the situation!!! You keep demanding that SASS change THEIR game to accommodate YOU!!!! You constantly say you don't understand what the rules are about. Time and time again two RO Instructor tell you to take the classes and even point out the PROPER way to get rules modified. You, however, continue with you adolescent whining and tirades against the established rules. It is not just this post, it is every post you are involved with, both here and on the SASS Wire. You are a chronic malcontent!!!!!!

I don't see where I demanded anything. I bought another couple sets of mags and forgot about the issue until a like minded person started this thread to start the conversation. You're the one who decided to come to a thread you don't like and express your distaste. You're just mad because I dared disagree with you. If I could take the SASS people there, I would certainly go and check it out. I have equipment for a lot of games. I don't see how Wild Bunch would be materially altered by letting at least the modern shooters who are allowed to use ambies, adjustable sights, front serrations, beavertails, and pretty much everything else I use on my USPSA gun besides a magwell would be so bummed out about being able to use a magazine with a basepad. I already knocked my front sight off and replaced it and removed my magwell. Maybe not having to buy another set of magazines on top of that wouldn't have been asking for too much?

Looking forward to it!

Well, you could alway go over to Historic 3 Gun, they allow any material for base pads, and leave the Wild Bunch shooters alone.

There is not a damn thing you could teach anyone! All you do is demand that an established organization change THEIR game to meet your requirements.

My Dawson 1911 basepads that I use regularly in USPSA are aluminum, so if that's the concern, that could easily be alleviated. Tripp Cobramags can be ordered with aluminum basepads already installed. If the issue is plastic, the solution to that is simple and already available, and already in use by people in every other shooting sport where 1911s are popular.

I don't have anything to do with the WB rules, as I was Retired/fired from the job a few years ago, but I will add a little thing that hasn't brought up. SASS as an orginaztion does NOT allow any plastic parts on any firearms where you can see them. (exception handgun grips)So plastic base pads fall outside any SASS organized competetion rules.

You should also show up to a match and I'll show you how to shoot wild bunch, without my modern magazines.

Read the rules, take the SASS RO classes. Then follow the rules, and don't be like El Chapo and expect the rules to be changed to suit you and your wishes. It really is very simple, play the game by the written rules.

It's a totally legitimate question and suggestion, don't be discouraged. But yeah, anytime you tell people that certain ancient standards should be modernized, it's like you kicked the hornet's nest. with many of these people. This isn't the first time or context where you will see this sort of response. Just search "power factor" or "classic" or "open category" around here and read what resulted when there were minor changes to the rules that changed nothing for the people who were already shooting WB.

Because somehow my opinion would be better than yours if I met your preconceived standard? You're the one hurling insults at someone who dares have a different opinion than you.

Despite my best efforts to ask a simple question without causing a battle, I failed. I must say that bickering like this is far worse for the game than any rules or changes. I think anyone reading this who was considering WB has run off like their hair was on fire. And Seth, I’m getting a little slower every day:) see you at the Muster!

Just trying to ascertain your credentials in wild bunch. If you want to be this way, ok, bye.

I stand by my comment!!! Your attitude is counterproductive to the advancement of this game. The game has rules, play by those rules. They evolved after years of people with your attitude, and worse, drove hundreds of shooters away. Misty, and the Board has worked hard to enact changes that MANY shooters were begging for. Shooters are coming back to WB, I became an instructor for WB because I believe in what is being done. Quit acting like a spoiled crybaby, play the game and encourage people to have fun, instead of your constant stream of vitrol you spew because we are not a cookie cutter of every other action handgun game you claim to excel at!!!!!!!!!

That's a very productive comment that really leads the sport forward. That attitude and the unwillingness to change is exactly why there were 320 shooters at a 1911 match just a few miles away from EoT who were not there, even though the match was just a few days after it ended. It is astonishing to me how critical WB shooters are about simple changes to the game that'd make it so much more accessible and enjoyable to others. Making people buy another set of magazines is pointless and accomplishing nothing. What's it to you? Show up to a match and I'll show you how to shoot wild bunch.

So, how long have you been shooting WB?

You are nothing but a whiny cry baby!!! You think the world should change to please you, that is childish and plain rude!!!!!

Been working on it for years. Unfortunately our game has a LOT of people who have been doing it for a long time who want to leave things as they are. Just search the forum for how angry people were when magazines went from 5 to 7, it was a disaster just like this thread. It's funny you ask that, because the last time I shot Wild Bunch, one of our favorite things to talk about in camp was how stupid (several of) the rules are. It was like a support group. But since you're a SASS member, I'm sure you already know, I am there for the people. It's a good time. The magazine rule is dumb and should have changed a long time ago. Virtually nobody, except the most dedicated purists, shoot 1911s with welded base magazines. The world moved on decades ago.

Contact Hasting Holsters. He makes good double mag holders for WB and he supports our sport.

You sure whine a lot about everything! Why do you shoot Wild Bunch if you dislike it so much?

Got pics of what you want? kR

44wcf is rifle As for the other stuff you rant about. When the game was created, the materials and supplies that were available at that time were used. Note, the WB Movie was filmed in 1969. If you don't like the rules and regulations of SASS WBAS, please, contact your TG and see if they can be changed.

I expect that you will also be using paper shotgun shells, because there were no plastic ones in 1913. I assume also that your rifle isn't a .38 Special, .357 Magnum, or .45 Colt because there was no such thing as a lever action rifle in any of those cartridges then, either. Common sense should have prevailed a long time ago on the magazines, just like it did for these things.

Because "elsewhere" is not based on the movie The Wild Bunch. More like Rambo meets Lethal Weapon meets HALO. Different genres. and, as for thickness, stack them, as long as they don't exceed 1/4 inch.

Right, they do that in wild bunch because we have no other options. Virtually everyone shooting 1911s anywhere else is using a mag with an actual basepad. The Mernicle leather pads are unfortunately not 1/4" thick. I made some of my own, and they aren't either. I wish I had a source for leather that thick, even the full 1/4" feels like it'd be an advantage.