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The federal ammo in question is just powdercoat like I do at home (from what I've seen at matches) and will be fine for WBAS.

All of it comes down to magazines. The GI style feed lips release too early and that can cause feeding issues. Most all 1911s will feed SWCs with the right magazines. There can be issues if SWCs aren't loaded to the correct dimensions, I had my own feeding problems this past year and I've loaded tens of thousands of .45 Auto cartridges. I am shooting 230 RN bullets because the SWCs aren't any softer, but you will probably see me at a WBAS match shooting SWCs sometime soon because I casted a bunch of them and they need to go somewhere. I use Tripp Research mags, and I haven't found anything that feeds as nicely as they do.

Older 1911s made with a "military" throat (intended for 230 FMJ ball) often used to have big problems with 200 gr SWC bullets or early (1960s) hollow point ammo. Usually a gunsmith could throat the gun properly for SWC lead or JHP. Or suggest the use of "hybrid" design magazine lips that gave a more controlled release point than the military hardball tapered lips. When that was completed, any ammo would usually run if it could drive the slide properly. I too have shot many thousands of rounds of H&G 68 lead bullets through the 1911 Series 70 I've had since 1974, with no problems when seated with the top land right at the case mouth and lightly taper crimped. But I shoot a Truncated Cone bullet now just to be able to share ammo with other shooters who may come up short. good luck, GJ

Never had a bit of trouble in several hundred thousand rounds of 200gr SWC (H&G 68 configuration), as long as I stayed in the 1.24” to 1.26” OAL range. There are a lot of 180gr SWC bullets with the same profile that also work just as well.

Scarlett, will you have some of this at Land Run? Love to try it.

Years ago I got a case of 200 grain lead SWC 45 acp ammo. The stuff ran perfect through the Kimber I had. Since then, I've only run standard 230 grain ball through through the 1911's I've had. Never tried anymore SWC in any of my other pistols. Curious as to your experiences with SWC 45 acp in your guns. Perhaps it is individual firearm sensitive for reliability and I just got lucky with the gun I had or do quite a few of you use 200 Grain SWC with solid reliability?

Scarlett's ammo will be a lot softer shooting (lower velocity) than the "big factory" 230 grain ammo. I'd try her .45 auto ammo! good luck, GJ

Bullets By Scarlett offers EXCELLENT, LEGAL Classic Power Factor 45 ACP ammunition. 230gr bullet. New brass. Hugs! Scarlett Darlin’ SASS Affiliated Merchant I am not sure if I’m registered for this WB Wire. I’ve tried. If this is an inappropriate post, apologies. This is my first WB post, I believe. I will be at Land Run. And will be shooting WB!

It's not nylon, it's poly so therefore, legal

I'm looking at getting back into competing in WB soon and my current stash of WB legal 45 acp is dwindling. I've always used factory ammo and probably always will 'cause as I don't want to get into reloading for something I don't shoot often so I'm fine with purchasing some factory ammo. I have always shot 230 grain Ultramax lead and Herters 230 grain Nylon Jacket. Neither of these are available any longer. An internet search turned up Federal and American Eagle Syntech ammo. Looks like a fancier version of the previously mentioned nylon jacket lead bullets. Anyone have any experience with either of these latter mentioned? I presume still WB legal? Thanks!

at our local Ft Bliss CAS, Wild Bunch is shot as if it’s another category, except pistol evolutions are bumped from 5-7 shots

These still available? I have not been on the Wild Bunch board in quite some time but hoping to get back into WB soon. While I have everything I need to compete in WB, these are sweet.

We've done it for years at RUCAS in Renton, WA. Most people shoot Cowboy on Saturday and WB on Sunday. We load mags 7/3, 6/4, or 5/5 depending on the scenario. Great practice for tactical reloads. I've never after shooting 10 rounds at a cowboy match had trouble with 14 at a real WB match. I like to also shoot all rifle targets with the 1911 rather than the close up pistol targets. Also good practice. Some folks also shoot what we call Ranger. Two double action revolvers, semi auto pistol caliber carbine or Tommy gun, and a semi auto shotgun. The point is monthly matches are for fun and practice. Gives people a chance to shoot guns they normally don't get to shoot.

It's great they want to start wild bunch. Having it on a cowboy weekend to begin with, is a good way to see how much many people are interested. It shouldn't matter if there are 5 round sequences, as long as you remember to put the correct amount of bullets in the magazines. Our club does the mixed wild bunch/cowboy on the first weekend of the month and just cowboy on the third weekend. The biggest difference is that the wild bunchers are allowed to preload the shotgun. Practicing with 5 round sequences and switching to 7 round sequences at wild bunch matches has never been a problem. Good luck and have fun with it!!

I wouldn't shoot a match that did the 5 round thing, I'd just shoot cowboy there instead.

Still available if someone is looking for a nice .45 rifle.

Then use 1 posse. Have a WB scenario, for 7 round mags, on hand and let the WB shooters shoot that. You may want to move the CAS targets to the SASS minimum recommended distances to allow WB rounds but that's up to you.

The club in question doesn’t have a large enough turnout for two posses. Plus I expect they want all attendees to get a sense of the game, not just those that are shooting the WB firearms. I would also recommend that they add one or two shotgun targets to the CAS four. I’d probably add static clays-less confusion for the cowboy shooters.

No, No, No. Then those shooters will attend a real WB match, load mags with 7 shoot 5 and SDQ for moving with a round under the hammer. Best way to combine CAS and WB is separate posses. Use the CAS target placement but move the shooting positions back to WB distances and have WB scenarios. Use 7 round mags. Dusty Bunch, in Casa Grande, do this all the time. Works great.

A club in my are is hoping to start Wild Bunch matches on a different weekend than their cowboy match. I salute their willingness to take this on. As a first step they plan to let shooters choose to shoot their monthly CAS match using Wild Bunch firearms, loading five rounds into the 1911 magazines. As much as I enjoy Wild Bunch I have avoided “five round” matches. I’m sure It would “train” me into a SDQ. I don’t usually have any trouble shooting my revolvers with five, or my 1911 with seven because the guns are dissimilar. What say the group? One alternative might be to set up one or two extra (Wild Bunch only) pistol targets on the stage, maybe a different shape or color than the rest, and have the Wild Bunch shooters engage them with two of the seven rounds. Yes, it throws the scores off, but so does a pump shotgun with the magazine loaded.

Just tested some Bullseye loads under a 200 grain lead slug. 4.8 grains made a plenty strong load - about 170 PF out of my gun. Made accurate ammo, matched WST for tight groups. Just as dirty as it was in my pistol loads in the 1970s. Kind of a sharp recoil impulse compared to good ol WST. good luck, GJ

Stages are now posted.

Anyone want to make a reasonable offer on this rifle?

I don’t see the stages on the website yet. https://sites.google.com/site/beltonbushwhackers/

Modern says dots are legal...not sure since the tritium sights are actually an insert. Definitely NOT legal for traditional