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Winchester Mdl 25 Hummm . . . . Been reading and pondering this thread for a few day now and still somewhat confused. Also have been shootin' WB for a long time. Quite frankly, NEVER heard of a Winchester Mdl 25. Of course, that should not mean anything to anybody. I don't know a lotta things about many things. I liked it after looking it up. Less parts to fail than the Winchester 97 has. I am puzzled why shooting this particular Model of a Winchester scattergun should make any difference to anyone in WB?? The Winchester 97 is allowed in WB. The 97, apparently, is allowed to be used in WB with both the take-down and solid frame models. Did not find anything in the WB Handbook about not using the solid frame 97. In my past, I have used all of my 97's for WB. All 4 of the Winchester 97's I own have been modified to take 6 shells as the 2 Norinco's I have. Have used them all before diving into the 3 Winchester Mdl 12's that I now have. What difference should the Winchester Mdl 25 make to anyone if used? I am confused with the 'must be approved' discussion. J.J.

I think this is just an example of the lack of an Oxford comma rendering a sentence confusing. WBAS does not allow 1911s in any cartridge except God's, 45 Auto.

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I’ve got a double stack one if you’re interested.

I want one of those. kR

Who knew the rule changes a couple years ago wouldn’t work and they would have to bring back the old rules? Oh, wait! Everyone but the ones making the rules…

Who knew that we could once use a 1911 pistol in .40 caliber?

Battle Born Rangers range is at the Washoe County Shooting Facility north of Reno NV

Where are you located?

It is common if not expected that Teddy Roosevelt and Doughboy are part of our monthly Wild Bunch Matches.

Yes, it is legal but if you want a solid trigger with no screw, I can help. I’ve always hated the screw. There are better ways.

Oakwood Outlaws in TX offer those categories as part of their Monday matches. The folks that regularly shoot the Monday match usually get together and pick which category they want to emphasize to create more friendly competition. I am retiring at the first of the year and plan to take advantage of their 3 day monthly matches. For those like me that live a little far away they have a bunkhouse and RV spaces for a nominal fee. That way I can make attending the match like a mini vacation.

Oakwood Outlaws in TX offer those categories as part of their Monday matches. The folks that regularly shoot the Monday match usually get together and pick which category they want to emphasize to create more friendly competition. I am retiring at the first of the year and plan to take advantage of their 3 day monthly matches. For those like me that live a little far away they have a bunkhouse and RV spaces for a nominal fee. That way I can make attending the match like a mini vacation.

Howdy Wild Bunch Shooters, By now you should have been contacted by your TG with information about Cowboy and Wild Bunch category changes. End of Trail has decided to offer ALL of the new categories for 2026. The new Cowboy category of Shootist (90 years old +) already has one entrant. If you are not already signed up, you can submit an online application choosing El Ray as your category and then send Sunshine Kay an email asking to change to Shootist. Your birthday must be on or before 2/26/1936. You may also email her and request an email application that you can fill out and mail in with your payment. ALL of the new Wild Bunch categories will now be offered. The existing Open and Ladies categories of Modern and Traditional will have age new designations of Senior (60-69) and Elder Statesman/Grand Dame (70+). Sunshine Kay will be contacting already registered 60-65 year olds and 70+ year olds to ask if they want to stay in their original category or switch to the new one. If you sign up online please pick any category and then email her with your changed category. Four new Wild Bunch categories have been added: Classic Traditional in Open and Ladies, and Classic Modern in Open and Ladies. All four will also be offered in Junior, Senior, and Elder Statesman/Grand Dame in addition to the base category. The Classic categories will return the firearms and power factor conventions that were in effect prior to the last change: Power factor of at least 150, .40 caliber or greater rifle, and pump shotguns of the Winchester 1897/Model 12 type. Sunshine Kay will be sending emails to all currently registered WB shooters informing them of how to change to the new Classic categories if they want. If you don’t hear from her in the next couple of days, feel free to send her an email. As in the above, if you are not registered yet, just pick a category and email her your category change. PLEASE NOTE: We have already ordered awards for the 2026 match. We will make every attempt to add awards for categories as they meet the minimum number of shooters. However, we may not have awards in hand for the Awards Ceremony for all the new categories. We will have stand-in awards for pictures and will ship you your award as soon as it arrives. We hope that our adoption of these new categories, although late in the year, will increase your enjoyment of End of Trail and make it more fun for all. Sunshine Kay’s email is Register@EndofTrail.org

Howdy, have a trigger question for traditional. Is the over travel screw allowed? I understand solid and no lightweight match but having trouble finding a solid trigger without the over travel screw. Thank you

I would be interested if the hat is still available

Point 1 - as far as I have followed the two categories, match directors have restricted ammo to lead bullet only so as to not require clubs to put AR500+ armor steel targets at 100 or more yards. Both the steel and the land is expensive. Point 2 - lead bullet ammo can be made to shoot real well from 1400 up to 1800 FPS or so with little difficulty, and hold accuracy of 2 to 3 MOA over at least 200 yards. Going beyond that requires a fair amount of understanding and testing. Up until about 1895, all rifles shot lead bullets (and black powder, even). good luck, GJ

And Pike was, mainly, wearing a buscadero rig with a double action revolver instead of the 1911

This is exactly why I was asking this. They are visually identical and operate the same.

Don't penalize everyone.

Only in one scene with Crazy Lee in the bank at the very beginning of the movie. Marshal Stone

I’ll travel within the Northeast to even shoot a local match. Only problem is, I don’t reload for those rifles. I have a Savage model 99 chambered in .300 Savage for Teddy Roosevelt and an American Enfield chambered in .30-06 for Doughboy. All of my ammo is jacketed, which I do think I would be allowed to use. I was also curious how non-jacketed would even perform at those velocities. I never shot either category before, so I’m not even sure what people use.

I am referring to sanctioned matches. Which is the source of my quote

A local club can still do as they please. And should.