Abe E.S. Corpus Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I believe this is another editing issue in the Handbook. Pre-2024 the shooter was required to cycle the rifle or shotgun before discarding it. If that was done, there was no penalty for an empty case/hull in the gun, nor for a live round in the gun unless it was in the chamber. The 2024 rule changes conform the requirement to that in CAS: the shooter must CLEAR the long gun, and Minor Safety penalties apply to empties or live rounds left in the gun (a live round in the chamber still being a SDQ). If my interpretation is correct, shouldn’t the references to the long gun being cycled (for example in the glossary) be eliminated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying W Ramrod Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 In February, I asked this question of Misty and was told the penalty is for leaving an empty or loaded round "in the chamber", and would be clarified in the next update. Thinking this clarification might have gotten lost during the past few, hectic, months. It was changed to ensure the side by side shooters would have to open and, attempt, to clear their shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastin Brad Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 As the rifle and shotgun are "safe for movement" with a live or fired round on the carrier, I would love to see the old ruling come back. A live round in the chamber is, as always, an SDQ. I also think it has to be "in the chamber with the action closed", if the action is open it is not a safety issue (in my opinion). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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