El Chapo

I'd be in favor of eliminating that definition in the interest of competitive equity. What is "attempting"? That requires us to get into a shooter's head. Obviously there's a good argument if the hammer falls and the round doesn't fire, but the fact that we even have to debate it is too unclear. I'm also in favor of round count stages, especially for wild bunch. It'd be a whole lot easier to have high round counts and more shooting if it wasn't for sweeps.

I don't think that thinking about shooting a target is the same as shooting at a target, but I'm also not any level of RO in either SASS sport.

I would think it's a P for shooting targets out of order anyway. If there are 3 targets you haven't attempted to shoot at, and you start another sweep, that is a procedural error on top of the 3 misses.

Separate is great if it's my state. Separate not so good if I have to travel. Either way, "Wild Bunch is not a side match"

I struggle with the same thing. Having it on Tuesday is hard. Thursday/Friday would be great.

I think we need to take the equal standing seriously if we want this to happen. "Wild Bunch is not a side match" needs to become our phrase. I also think there should be a push for the Wild Bunch and Cowboy Action Shooting state matches to be at the same location and done during the same event. Make it known that we won't be ignored and the recognition will come.

In Quickload, 3.9 grains @ 1.255" length with a 228 grain Lee bullet RN gets you 158 pf @ 10,696 psi. Bumping that to the 4.5 grain start load gets 182 pf @ 15,082 psi. All out of a 5" barrel. Quickload has the PF a little higher than predicted by the data you posted, but it's pretty close. I just got some Clean Shot and I may try it in .45 ACP the next time I load for WB. I'd have to reduce my Clays load to ~3 grains to get similar performance to 3.9 grains of Clean Shot, which probably wouldn't cycle very well. Maybe Clean Shot is as great as people say it is! I have 5 pounds to try.

I'm still on the fence but I'd really like to join you all.

N310 would be the common choice for .45 although there are slower powders that would work if needed.

I recently bought a Tisas 2011 and I am amazed with the quality for $520. It seemed too good to be true, but it isn't.

Nope, they have GI style baseplates covered with leather. For the other sports where normal magazines are allowed, I use Tripp Research with Dawson Precision aluminum basepads. No plastic here.

I bought Wilson Combat mags for my WB mags! Fortunately they were on sale.

You should be able to straighten the bow out. As long as it slides freely forward and aft, it'll work.

There are certainly other sports where pros and amateurs get to compete on the same surface. Drag racing is widely admired for that. No, I can't enter into the NHRA nationals. But I can race on the surface where they do it.

In other action shooting sports, except IDPA, which penalizes dropping loaded magazines, competitors will replace the magazine in their gun before it it is empty so that they don't have to cycle the slide to get back to shooting. Tenths of seconds can make the difference in winning or losing a 12 stage match, and shooting the gun to slide lock is much slower. The only time you will see a serious competitor shoot a gun empty is if he has made a mistake. At that point, the competitor has made such a serious error that the stage is a total loss, it's just a matter of doing the best you can at that point. Since the game is shot in shooting positions of no more than 8 shots per position or view, even a single stack .45 1911 has 8+1 rounds, so there will still be the last round in the chamber when the person hits their reload. And in the other divisions, the guns can have much higher capacity, some up to 27-28 rounds, so there would be no reason unless someone has really screwed up that the gun would ever be empty. It is not only common to not shoot the gun empty, but also to modify guns so that they don't lock back when empty. The reason for this is to avoid the possible reliability issues that come from the lock back function (e.g., I just got a new 2011 that likes to lock back with 1 round left in the magazine, so I will be installing followers without the lock back function when I get around to tuning the magazines to make them work).