CC Moonshine

Hi JJ, I will have to make this a short reply as we have a ton to do before we head to Land Run this week. When SASS made changes to the structure of WB a couple years ago there were only 20-24 clubs world wide having true WB matches. Now there are over 50 (I'm pretty sure it's actually more then 60+ and growing) but lets say 50. A 100% growth rate is a perfect example of WB heading in the right direction. I know SASS, other Board members, myself and other long time match directors talk and have had a large number of emails, texts, phone conversations, and in person conversations with clubs wanting to get rolling with WB, & CASS shooters interested in WB. As for match designs, or matches where people don't shoot clean or the match is extremely tough. All I can say is that we hope Match Directors listen to their customers and adjust to the matches that people want to attend. This is an age old issue in every shooting sport, if it's not fun, people don't come back. SASS provides recommendations but that is the extent of it, each match director can decide for themselves. I see clubs in both CAS and WB that work hard to create an exciting yet cleanable match, that their customers don't leave feeling defeated or like they just fought a death match and they have great numbers and returning customers. The clubs that don't create a fun experience, well they might need to travel and see some of the clubs that are succeeding and why. This isn't rocket science, but yet there is a science to it. Produce a fun match that even a new shooter will leave feeling that they did ok. It don't have to be boring but it shouldn't be hard. My recommendation to all match directors (after 20+ years of writing stages and owning a club) Have one hard element per stage: High round count but easy sweeps and target distances Harder sweep Heavy movement / gun transition Farther target distance or spread But not more then one hard element per stage. Average the times on the stages to be close to the same. Make it to where 20% can (with slight effort) shoot it clean. A great MD will want to bask in the glory of seeing a lot of smiling faces at the end of the match. Customers come back if and only if they enjoyed it. Have a super week everyone, CC

Hi JJ, Things thought out properly take time, to prevent having to redo things not thought out. That being said, there is a ton of conversations taking place almost on a daily basis regarding great ideas for WB. The TG's and WBROC are all talking and there will be several topics at Land Run and again at EOT 2026. WB is growing at an unprecedented rate, well beyond forecast when the rules were altered last year. Keep giving information and ideas to your TGs', post them here or contact SASS by email with ideas and thoughts. Thanks and have a super weekend, CC

Super excited to get word from Europe that a group from Germany has committed to coming ! Several others in Europe are still working on it to attend ! They are all planning on shooting all 3 events ! This is going to be awesome !

Good morning everyone, Wow this wire is quiet this week. Hey, where are you all shooting WB next? What's your next year of WB look like for you ? Just wondering.. Ours is The Michigan State Championship, then Land Run. Have a super weekend.

Mark your calendars, you don't want to miss this! August 22-30 Paradise Pass Regulators and the Single Action Shooting Society are proud to present... THREE Championship matches in ONE colossal event! - 10 stages - Fire & Brimstone - International Blackpowder Championship - 10 stages - IN State Championship of Wild Bunch Action Shooting - 10 stages - IN State Championship of Cowboy Action Shooting - Loads of Warm Up matches - Loads of Side matches, Long Range, Team events - Plainsman mini-match - Shoot all 3 matches for special award recognition! - On-site camping - Vendors & Exhibitors! - Banquets, Hospitality & Social functions Stay tuned for more details. Registration will open January 1, 2026!

Mark your calendars, you don't want to miss this! August 22-30 Paradise Pass Regulators and the Single Action Shooting Society are proud to present... THREE Championship matches in ONE colossal event! - 10 stages - Fire & Brimstone - International Blackpowder Championship - 10 stages - IN State Championship of Wild Bunch Action Shooting - 10 stages - IN State Championship of Cowboy Action Shooting - Loads of Warm Up matches - Loads of Side matches, Long Range, Team events - Plainsman mini-match - Shoot all 3 matches for special award recognition! - On-site camping - Vendors & Exhibitors! - Banquets, Hospitality & Social functions Stay tuned for more details. Registration will open January 1, 2026!

We got it worked out ! Add Misty Moonshine, CC Moonshine, Ruby Ruthless, and Little Iron Lucille to the shooters list. Checks and apps go out in the morning ! Looking forward to it !

We are still looking at schedules and would love to work it out. We should know soon if we can pull it off. I know it will be a great shoot and good practice before Landrun.

Looking forward to being there !

Our Indiana State WB shirts are in !!! What do you guys think ?

Just FYI We are holding Indiana's WB championship next Thursday and Friday (6+4 stages) CAS match is Saturday and Sunday ! WB awards will be Friday night at the cookout prior to the Fireworks show. Everyone is welcome ! Sign up on our website. Paradise Pass Regulators

Awesome ! So excited for this match !

Hi Artemus, It is in the TG's hands and it will have a vote in the fall, just like the process dictates. There are still many clubs attempting to get their programs fired up for 2025 (spring is just starting) they will need time to have some matches, add members, pick TG's, and ask questions. Plus the process is the process, nothing should be rushed. I predict an additional dozen or more TGs/ clubs will come on board by mid summer. I guess it is perspective regarding the reaction in the TG meetings, and I've been in a ton of them, but there are questions brought by some and discussion takes place regarding power factor but it far from a one sided issue, I think it's actually more of a minority that want it back for all categories. As for your matches in 2019 please provide the numbers, double digit growth is outstanding, but I also, don't understand how rule changes effected it in any way (nothing was taken away or prevented in the rules from what you could do during double digit growth). As far as the data, I'm not sure what more you are looking for but in a nutshell 2019- 2024 there were only 20-24 verified clubs shooting WB as matches ( not talking side match events). Now there are 55-65+ (I haven't checked the number in a few weeks) that are set up, with TG's and dates for matches, there are several states setting up their first WB sanctioned matches, clubs adding WB to their monthly CAS match before or after, and some going all in with a dedicated day for WB (such as ours starting in May), along with several clubs exploring options for their clubs. As for match sizes, don't grab at the fools gold in the numbers attending matches, I can guarantee that match attendance numbers have 90% to with the perceived value of the customer and 10% economic. If they or someone they know attended a match that was excellent then they will return and tell friends, if they perceived the match as not the value or level of entertainment they expected, they don't return. Landrun is sold out for CAS and has a record number signed up for WB ( last I heard was around 120) with 5 months to go. A match directors choice (at EOT or any match) to do or not do something is not a barometer but rather a pure preference. The data is clear, my testing to my satisfaction, the manufactures, and other shooting sports end with rifle all the way down to .22. Florida State a few weeks ago, I ran the timer a lot, in close quarter bays, some bays even shared stage areas (2 posses shooting side by side in one bay) and again I captured 100% of all shots fired for every single shooter I timed (roughly, I timed almost 2,000+/- shots that weekend and missed picking up ZERO shots), For almost 2 years (as a T.O. at every match, every training event, and practice days for customers at our store) I have made it a mission to time properly and test the theory, the rifle last issue is completely dead to me. There is no issue with RIFLE LAST. No reasonable or facts based argument can be made that say rifle can't be last, to much testing has been done in the industry, by many other sports, and by other SASS members and myself that debunk any notation that anything except improper operation of the timer (human error) is the only option. If you want PF because you want PF, just say so, it's not a crime, it's an opinion, but no more claims are valid at this point that it is unreliable to allow rifle last, improper operation of a timer is no different then a distracted spotter (replace them in their duty). A high PF is for some and not for others but forcing those that don't want it will drive attendance and participation the wrong direction. Our Gun Shop also manufactures ammunition, we offer a cowboy .38 load(110 grain) it tests around 100 PF, people love it, we sell a lot of it. We will not add another load or alter the load we currently make in .38. Our store sells reloading supplies, we carry lots of options and our # 1 seller is 9mm (115 grn) bullet, #2 is the 110 grn .38, #3 is 105 grn .38, we stopped stocking 158 grn .38, very few want it anymore. Just from our sales data you can see that shooters want a smooth easy shooting round and enjoy it. If a 150 PF is reinstated for all rifle, our club will end WB just like we did in 2012 because 85% of our shooters shoot a .38 and just use their CAS ammo. I can stay with confidence that we will slide right back to where we were prior. A huge number at EOT, Florida, and several other matches are seeing at least 3 to 1 for the use of .38 and I'm sure very few would come close to a 150 PF. Forcing CAS shooters to add an additional "new load" to their schedule just for rifle of reloading and supplies will absolutely kill WB. The logical answer if Power Factor is a push for some ( remember it's only for preference, not for rifle last, testing is complete on that topic) then add a category for big boom or high power factor. Easy as that. It accommodates everyone without infringing on anyone's fun. Have a great week, CC

Good Morning Marshal, I hope you are doing well. You are absolutely right, anyone can achieve 150 PF with a 158 grain bullet at 950 ft./sec. But from the research (completed by SASS, the Advisory Board, and other advisors) for over 2 years. The new prospective shooters for WB want to use their CAS rifle and ammo, this has been the largest needle mover for the increase in interest in WB. They have zero desire to have to add a new load, bullet or rifle to come try WB, and if they like WB there is still zero interest to add those items to keep playing. Undisputed fact: when WB added the .40 cal. rifle and 150 rifle PF to the program around 2011 or 2012, it killed WBs growth, stopped it cold in it's tracks. Our club and at least 6 others in the Midwest ended our WB programs because of that rule, and we had a really strong program starting out. Factory 158 Grain lead ammo is expensive and hard to find. From my Distributors ( just checked the 3 largest Distributors wholesale to my gun shop), 7 brands are currently in stock of 158 grain lead ammo, starting retail price for 50 rounds is $37.99 (.76 cents per shot). Also, 3 of the 7 brands currently in stock, I doubt would field test to a 150 PF It is self distractive for WB to be consider forcing 150 PF on rifle for no reason. It has already been debunked about "ending with rifle issue" and modern timers. Current club participation in WB is double+ since 38 rifle was added ( this is factored with the mass increase in the number of clubs adding WB up over 100%). The easy solution for those that want it, add a 150 PF rifle category, heck make it 170PF for pistol and rifle for that category (like classic cowboy in CAS) or whatever and those that want that bigger challenge get it there and those that want to run 38 CAS ammo can, it's a complete win win. We all want WB to thrive and we would love for more and more shooters from CAS, other disciplines, or first timers. But for this to happen it must be a build up effect. Create easy entry requirements to try WB. =Check Increase the number of clubs that offer WB so people can get to a match within a reasonable distance. = In-progress but working Lesson to the shooters and create topics that will continue to grow the sport. = In-progress Continue to grow and adjust the sport to continue to improve the experience for the shooters. Have a fantastic Easter everyone, CC

Good Afternoon, I agree that equipment (& ammo) shouldn't be made obsolete by rule. To that point is the reason we added equipment and didn't remove or restrict anything else. As for major or serious changes, SASS wants the members (TG's) to shape the major changes. All we did with our research was to nudge the sport of WB in a direction that appears appropriate for the times. Now it can travel it's natural path through the TG system. I don't disagree with you about the love of 1911's and other shooting sports. . SASS continues to market to all shooters of any sport. Misty has several advertising deals with national open distribution, We will be setting up next week at the NRA Convention in Atlanta, Ruby Ruthless and a team of SASS members just did the huge Pennsylvania Great American Outdoor show with the SASS booth, we will be doing the Red Dead Redemption event in Tombstone later this year also. So SASS is still marketing in several directions but the WB focus approach is for CAS members to easily transition to try WB, by larger participation by CAS members in WB it also becomes more attractive to outsiders when there are more people involved. So in closing, I agree with you on many topics, and SASS is working hard every day to draw in new members to both WB and CAS. Have a great Easter weekend, CC