CC Moonshine

Hi, I really enjoyed the whole match, but yes stage 8 was better designed then in the past and was a lot of fun. I was very happy that they had the designs that they did this year. I spoke with dozens of very happy shooters. It was a great event all the way through, WB, CAS, and all after hours events. Hats off to them.

Hi Boggus, It was nice to see you at EOT. I wanted to come back around and talk about all the topics of WB but I had just a few to many irons in the fire. I'm not sure of the time frame you are referring to in the quote above, but the pure hard numbers (which never lie) show a stagnated unmeasurable zero net gain for Wild Bunch from 2012-2021. No growth, beyond ten's of people. I'm very very curious as to all the ideas that were shot down? Please share. Also I'm curious as to whom you feel has no clue, because the direction of WB is being guided by over 100 WB TG's and an experienced WB-ROC. Is your claim that they have no clue??? The "open" category was SASS's attempt in 2022 to create an opportunity for folks to shoot .38 rifles and try WB with their CAS shotgun. It was completely rejected and in a very rude fashion by the old guard. The attempt was not to do away with anything, It was to ADD something. Fast forward to today, and the Classic categories does exactly the same thing just reversed in execution. This or the Open categories have always been part of the growth plan. WB should offer enough options so that almost anyone can find a spot that fits their desire. Again, the numbers are proof of concept. Shoot the game like you want to, there is a spot for everyone. As the new rules launched in 2025, there was a huge, measurable gain with clubs / TG's and matches requesting sanctioning where there were never WB matches in the past. Now with the Classic add, we are seeing another growth spurt. Remember numbers don't lie. I urge you and anyone who has ideas or wants changes, then become a TG or spend some time with TG's and explain your ideas. But just posting rants, (while it's entertaining) it really does nothing for anyone.

Hi everyone, Just returned from EOT. Great events! Both WB and CAS were well received and had great stage designs. It is notable that the WB targets were a yard or 2 too close in many folks opinion. I agree that the close pistol could have been moved back some. That being said, it was an excellent match and folks had a super time. To the statements about the catagories: Wild Bunch is doing exactly as we hoped, folks have choices and choices are good. 60/40 split of classic and other is fantastic! That means that 40 % are here shooting as new Wild Bunch shooters OR converts of old that wanted to shoot 38. This can also suggest that close to 40%+/- of the shooters were new to WB in the past year. For the record this is a 100% win for Wild Bunch! 164 shooters in the match, folks were happy, I talked to several dozen and they were all thrilled. Land Run 2026 already has 120 Wild Bunch and it's still 9 months away. I know it's very hard for some to see sunshine and joy, but it's impossible to dispute the simple facts. We are growing and its great. Have a great day everyone, CC

Hi All, I don't think we are back where we started in the least. 3 years ago there were less then 25 clubs holding official WB matches or offering organized WB programs Now we have over 95 clubs 3 years ago we had a very small minority making the decisions for WB Now we have over 95 WB-TG's bringing the voices of their clubs world wide to the table 3 years ago anyone wanting to try WB had to make a big investment in a 1911, a 40 cal or above rifle and a pump sg Now everyone can play by simply adding a 1911 3 years ago it was offered to have a "open" class and was rejected Now we have approached it from the other direction and have the classic categories as a win win for everyone Now we have more people doing/ trying WB then ever in the history of WB This year, there will be more organized sanctioned WB championship matches then ever held in a year (State, and Territorial) I would say we are a long way from where we were and the future looks pretty bright for the sport. In a week we will have a WB-TG meeting at EOT and we hope there are several more great ideas for WB brought to the table for discussions to start for 2026! Everyone have a super rest of the week, CC

Hello all, So the conversation can move productively from speculation and doom and gloom to reality. WB is growing, maybe not at the major matches but that can be many factors outside of the rules of WB being changed. WB has grown from 20-25 clubs annually holding structured WB events to now over 90+ (probably over 100, but I haven't checked in a few weeks). 280% increase is a pretty good growth margin by any standard. Seeing 50% +/- switch to Classic only reinforces that the decisions to this point have worked out. At least 50%+/- percent did not switch to Classic, so they would not have participated if we were still under the old rules, and 50% are happy to have classic categories. This is a win win. My personal contact with dozens of CAS shooters who have reached out with questions to get started in WB has been outstanding and again, a proof of concept. With the current success of WB growth, I can say WB is here to stay as we keep moving forward. We are not going to pull shooters from other shooting sports, this was the approach of the old WB command and for 10 years it was attempted with the grand total of least then a very small handful of shooters known to come over from other sports. Money, time, current equipment would need exchanged, family time, jobs, are all factors with how people spend their hobby time. The approach of making WB friendly to the folks that shoot CAS to stick around and try WB with only an investment of a 1911 has worked to a measurable growth that exceeded our projections. The question of condition 1 start should be brought up NOW to you TG's so it can be brought up at the EOT TG meeting. If it has merit and traction for conversation then so begins the exploration for viability in the game. I hope everyone understands, SASS wants this to grow and it is! We want WB to keep perfecting how the sport evolves, this is why Misty Moonshine instated the TG program. "Let the voice of the people lead us from here." is one of Misty's often made statements. You want it, talk to your TG's. Also for the record, SASS as a whole is alive and well. There is a net gain every year in membership and the company is solid. I get soooo tired of seeing B.S. comments about how the sport is dying from people who absolutely have zero knowledge on the organization as a whole. All is well as SASS celebrates 40 years! Lord willing with another 40+ years to go!

I think it would be perfect if at all major matches that around half signed up for Classic categories. This would the balance we all hoped for, with everyone picking what fits for them. I'm very glad to hear that several have moved over to it. See many of you in about 2 weeks!

Yes, we are very happy with the numbers so far. We have a very good size group coming from Europe also! We are super excited to try 3 championships in 9 days!

Awesome! Super glad folks are embracing the choices in categories with the addition of the classics! Look forward to seeing you there!

Howdy all, Just wondering who all is coming ! I'm looking forward to it! I even have Ruby Ruthless shooting it too! She just got her first 1911 and is all set!

Howdy all, The Triple Classic applications and schedule information is now available on our website! 3 championship shoots in 9 days! August 21-30, 2026 at Paradise Pass !!! Pick 1, 2, or all 3 events ! SASS International Black Powder Championship SASS Territorial Wild Bunch Championship ( 10 amazing stages! WB warm up match, WB side matches, WB opening ceremony, WB banquet, 3 full days of WB fun! SASS CAS Midwest regional Championship Come shoot 10, 20, or 30 stages!!! Plus side matches, warm ups, and mini matches! Shoot all 3 events and you are in the running for Championship awards for the Triple Classic. All scores from your 3 events will be combined to calculate the winners of the first ever Triple Classic! All events are on site, Banquets, opening ceremonies, poker night, wine tasting event, cornhole tournament, HUGE FIREWORKS SHOW, B.P. world famous night shoot, camping on site for up to 150 campers!!! Check it all out at SASS Wild Bunch Championship

Happy new year to everyone, The Midwest Regional at Paradise Pass in Etna Green, Indiana will be combined as part of the Triple Classic. The Triple Classic will consist of 9 days of shooting for you to pick from. This is 3 different Championship events in 9 days!!! First event is the International Black Powder SASS Championship August 21 is side match day August 22-23 are the main match days (10 stages) August 24th (Monday) is a range reset day and ROBS classes and other events T.B.A. August 25-26th is the Territorial Wild Bunch SASS Championship (10 stages) August 27th is CAS side / mini match day August 28-30th The SASS Midwest Regional CAS Championship (10 stages) You can sign up for 1, 2, or all 3 events. If you shoot all three events you will have all three of your scores added up for the Triple Classic Rankings. All Triple Classic shooters will receive a few special gifts (TBA) Or just come shoot your favorite event. For the International Black Powder Championship we WILL have smokeless posses so you can come, have fun, shoot a pre match for CAS. But you will not be scored in the Black Powder Championship and won't be eligible for the Triple Classic Ranking. Applications will be available in the next 2 weeks on our website (we will post when it's available.) We will be setting a cap on the number of shooters (TBA) so when we post applications up, get signed up fast! Some of you missed E.O.T. 2021 here, but don't miss this !!!!! Special notes with details to come Camping on site (limited to 121 campers) (some electric spots will be available TBA) Full water and septic services will be coming on site for those that need dumped and water fill All banquets, yes with an S, will be on site Awesome evening events most nights CC's ALMOST Famous Fireworks show will be the biggest yet !!! Tons of vendors will be here 10-30 main match stages in 9 days + mini matches + Side matches Tons of side matches, mini matches and things to do Paradise Pass will also be celebrating our 20th year as a proud SASS Sanctioned Gun Club Mark your calendars

Happy new year to everyone, The Midwest Regional at Paradise Pass in Etna Green, Indiana will be combined as part of the Triple Classic. The Triple Classic will consist of 9 days of shooting for you to pick from. This is 3 different Championship events in 9 days!!! First event is the International Black Powder SASS Championship August 21 is side match day August 22-23 are the main match days (10 stages) August 24th (Monday) is a range reset day and ROBS classes and other events T.B.A. August 25-26th is the Territorial Wild Bunch SASS Championship (10 stages) August 27th is CAS side / mini match day August 28-30th The SASS Midwest Regional CAS Championship (10 stages) You can sign up for 1, 2, or all 3 events. If you shoot all three events you will have all three of your scores added up for the Triple Classic Rankings. All Triple Classic shooters will receive a few special gifts (TBA) Or just come shoot your favorite event. For the International Black Powder Championship we WILL have smokeless posses so you can come, have fun, shoot a pre match for CAS. But you will not be scored in the Black Powder Championship and won't be eligible for the Triple Classic Ranking. Applications will be available in the next 2 weeks on our website (we will post when it's available.) We will be setting a cap on the number of shooters (TBA) so when we post applications up, get signed up fast! Some of you missed E.O.T. 2021 here, but don't miss this !!!!! Special notes with details to come Camping on site (limited to 121 campers) (some electric spots will be available TBA) Full water and septic services will be coming on site for those that need dumped and water fill All banquets, yes with an S, will be on site Awesome evening events most nights CC's ALMOST Famous Fireworks show will be the biggest yet !!! Tons of vendors will be here 10-30 main match stages in 9 days + mini matches + Side matches Tons of side matches, mini matches and things to do Paradise Pass will also be celebrating our 20th year as a proud SASS Sanctioned Gun Club Mark your calendars

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Hi JJ, I will have to make this a short reply as we have a ton to do before we head to Land Run this week. When SASS made changes to the structure of WB a couple years ago there were only 20-24 clubs world wide having true WB matches. Now there are over 50 (I'm pretty sure it's actually more then 60+ and growing) but lets say 50. A 100% growth rate is a perfect example of WB heading in the right direction. I know SASS, other Board members, myself and other long time match directors talk and have had a large number of emails, texts, phone conversations, and in person conversations with clubs wanting to get rolling with WB, & CASS shooters interested in WB. As for match designs, or matches where people don't shoot clean or the match is extremely tough. All I can say is that we hope Match Directors listen to their customers and adjust to the matches that people want to attend. This is an age old issue in every shooting sport, if it's not fun, people don't come back. SASS provides recommendations but that is the extent of it, each match director can decide for themselves. I see clubs in both CAS and WB that work hard to create an exciting yet cleanable match, that their customers don't leave feeling defeated or like they just fought a death match and they have great numbers and returning customers. The clubs that don't create a fun experience, well they might need to travel and see some of the clubs that are succeeding and why. This isn't rocket science, but yet there is a science to it. Produce a fun match that even a new shooter will leave feeling that they did ok. It don't have to be boring but it shouldn't be hard. My recommendation to all match directors (after 20+ years of writing stages and owning a club) Have one hard element per stage: High round count but easy sweeps and target distances Harder sweep Heavy movement / gun transition Farther target distance or spread But not more then one hard element per stage. Average the times on the stages to be close to the same. Make it to where 20% can (with slight effort) shoot it clean. A great MD will want to bask in the glory of seeing a lot of smiling faces at the end of the match. Customers come back if and only if they enjoyed it. Have a super week everyone, CC