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Battle Born Rangers typically offer both as part of the monthly Wild Bunch Matches. Along with BIG BORE at the CAS matches. They were also part of the Nevada State Wild Bunch match in 2023.

Battle Born Rangers range is at the Washoe County Shooting Facility north of Reno NV

It is common if not expected that Teddy Roosevelt and Doughboy are part of our monthly Wild Bunch Matches.

I am referring to sanctioned matches. Which is the source of my quote

From the announcement 3. Teddy Roosevelt and Doughboy will no longer be official WBAS Main match categories. They will be moved back to WBAS Side match status. What could have been stated is that because some ranges are not able to accommodate the required distances, clubs are not obligated to offer Teddy Roosevelt and Doughboy. Doing so allows clubs the option

SASS has made some important changes to Wild Bunch. I'll let others share the changes. Make sure you contact your TG and VOTE

Is SASS Wild Bunch Action Shooting really Cowboy Action Shooting with a 1911? My introduction to the 1911 was with my local SASS clubs, High Plains Drifters and ROOP. I was new to SASS and was really enjoying the change from IDPA. My local clubs arranged to have Sutter Lawman teach a local Wild Bunch RO class. This was 10+ years ago. I recall him stating several times that WB is NOT Cowboy with a 1911. Towards the end of the course, he mentioned that he was working with the WB Committee for a rule change. Currently the WB magazines were limited to holding only FIVE rounds. Evidently when WB started it was a side match using the stages from Cowboy, therefore five rounds to match Cowboy stage descriptions. Hmmm, sounds like Cowboy with a 1911 to me? Soon after the WB Committee did change the round count from five to the current seven. Ah, I am thinking, breaking away from Cowboy **. Ok, enough of the history lesson. Two years ago, SASS was very concerned about the profitability of Wild Bunch. There were many opinions, as far as I am concerned it does not matter. There was/is a goal to increase participation, GREAT!!!! My thoughts. Retain the WB Category structure of several years ago and create a new category, “Open”. In Open category any caliber 1911 is allowed. Any Cowboy rifle and shotgun are allowed (including Model 12). Power factor of 150 for both pistols and rifle. What??? Yes, 150. 38’s (.357) are available at 158+ grains and higher which keeps speed below 1000 fps, also 9 mm at 160 grains (Bear Creek & Bayou). This keeps with the concept that Wild Bunch is NOT Cowboy with a 1911. For those shooters that want to shoot their 105 grain 38 SPL, I say this is "Wild Bunch, NOT Cowboy with a 1911" **. What another category??? Noooooo you say!! OK then using the above suggestion for power factor allow 9mm and any legal cowboy long gun in the Modern Category. Return Traditional to the way it was several years ago, 40 caliber and higher, pump shotgun. Still not convinced, very sad I say **. At least LEAVE Traditional alone as it is NOT Cowboy with a 1911. You want Cowboy with a 1911 then mess with Modern. My suggestions do not EXCLUDE anyone and retains some history of SASS Wild Bunch Action Shooting. ** BTW from slide #4 of the WBAS course: However, there are distinct differences between the 2 disciplines, and it is important to remember that WBAS was not developed to be, nor is it to be presented as “CAS with a 1911”.

GREAT . . . a non issue. I now hope that stage writers will stop putting all the rifle targets in the center.

??? I am not sure what you see. I see a large font with text centered in post. I just scraped it from the email about the survey

Interesting Here is the original survey I was sent on March 17, 2025       YES / NO   5. Increase age-based categories: Open or Classic age category, up to 60 years; then Senior from 60 to 70 years; and Super Senior 70+?       YES / NO   6. Should shotgun misses be allowed to made up?        YES / NO   7. Enable "rifle to be last" in WB stage design?              YES / NO

FWR, What about question #7?

https://forums.sassnet.com/index.php?/topic/392109-2025-land-run-tg-meeting/

I just posted on the TG wire asking about an addenda for the TG meeting. I am not aware of any discussion regarding the TG meeting. I hope the results of this survey will lead to action.

In the file above #7 was not displayed. Here is the #7 my club voted on-- 7. Enable "rifle to be last" in WB stage design?              YES / NO 72% votes YES

Hmmm care to elaborate?

FaceBook????? What the hell is that?

Hmmmm..... Wild Bunch must be in a different system then Cowboy?

Anyone else notice this?

thank you for posting

Page 11 of the WILD BUNCH ACTION SHOOTING™ ANALYSIS & ACTION PLAN November 1, 2023 Effective date: January 1, 2024 MONITORING RESULTS Testing and analyzing results will occur every quarter. Adjustments will be made accordingly. Adjustments in focus will be made as needed throughout the fiscal year. Have there been any posted analysis or adjustments? If so please send link, I have not seen any. If the goal was to increase participation, from the beginning, in my opinion, the wrong approach was taken. The basic structure of WB should have remained, NO changes. Keep all those shooters. Introduce an Open category. "What" you say, another category. YES. More awards more recognition. More participation. More happy faces. Open category is any SASS rifle & shotgun and any 1911 style pistol (yes 9mm). Many clubs were already doing this. Power Factor, for Open? None. The goal is participation. Most, if not all reactive targets can be adjusted. See what happens. Then, Testing and analyzing results will occur every quarter. Adjustments will be made accordingly. Leave the historical WB alone, keep all those shooters'. Use the Open category to increase participation. Just my opinion.

Wish I could have attended. By reading the minutes, it appears to me that the meeting was fruitful.

28th Annual ROOP County Days 2024 Sponsored by Battle Born Rangers, Fernley, NV June 22nd through June 30th Eight days of CAS June 22nd 4th Annual Silver State Shootist Annual match. June 24th-25th Wild Bunch, Doughboy & Teddy Roosevelt. June 26th-27th SASS Nevada State Black Powder Championship June 28th Speed events, pickle shoot and long range, including 700 yards. June 29th-30th Western States Tom Horn Championship & RCD Cowboy match All events are BIG BORE friendly. Bring it and shoot it. There will be Buckles and Gold Pans. Lunch is included on the 22nd, 25th & 27th. Catered banquet on the 30th. Shoot all four events and earn the BBR Shootist Award. Free dry camping. Applications and additional information available at, http://www.northernnevadacas.com/index.html

Hummm. I must have an incorrect schedule. Turquoise Bill posted an updated schedule on the wire yesterday and I am not able to find that meeting, on that schedule. What I see is the Cowboy TG meeting. No mention of WB. The original meeting has been removed Hopefully you are more informed than I.

I was reviewing the latest schedule for EOT. As far as I am able to see, the WBRO Instructors meeting has been removed. Is this true?

Will this class be using the Yet-To-Be-Released new materials?