Rattlesnake Slim Posted August 14 Posted August 14 Tomorrow, August 15th at 10:00 am Arizona Time (use Google if you’re not sure), End of Trail registration will open. Online registration and printable applications will be available on the EOT website HERE . Speed and Long Range matches are still free to competitors and conventioneers, however this year there is an area to indicate your intention to participate. We are asking for this to make sure that we have an adequate number of volunteers to staff all of the events. Please indicate if you are CONSIDERING shooting the side matches in the space provided. Thank you for your continued support as we work to bring you the best World Championship matches ever. See you in February! 2 Quote
Flying W Ramrod Posted August 15 Posted August 15 Still would like to know who's writing the stages and who's vetting them. Don't want a repeat of the debacle of last EOT. Quote
Happy Jack Posted August 15 Posted August 15 I obviously wasn't there last time but what did you think was wrong with the stages??? Quote
Flying W Ramrod Posted August 16 Posted August 16 7 hours ago, Happy Jack said: I obviously wasn't there last time but what did you think was wrong with the stages??? Nothing if you shoot H3G. Quote
Happy Jack Posted August 18 Posted August 18 (edited) I guess I will stir the pot a bit with some history. I don't know how many times over the years I was reminded that "SASS and CAS is in the Entertainment Business NOT in the Shooting business". People who do well are happy and that makes for good business. That has always been the driving force and it still is today. A number of years age I was approached by The General, The Judge, and Coyote and they wanted to add another thing to SASS since it was not highly thought of in the shooting world. They tasked me with making Wild Bunch Action Shooting, which was to be a Real Shooting Sport, as well as enjoyable within the general SASS guidelines. So I created WBAS as a Shooting Sport. I had a lot of great help over the years making it go. The early years most of the EOT stages were written by Pecos Clyde (a great guy who introduced the Model 12 SG to WBAS) Then the stage writing was taken over by Texas Jack Morales (one of my heroes). It was 7? of 8? years before we had the first shooter shoot EOT clean!!! NOBODY complained to us. Those shooting WBAS enjoyed the more challenging sport. We had retired operators who were glad to help new shooters learn how to "run a 1911". I produced the training video on WBAS for Holy Terror. We tried really hard to make it a shooting sport. WBAS was NEVER intended to be like CAS with a 1911. Sadly, IMHO the sport has begun drifting away from the founding principles in recent years. Just a bit of history for those who are interested. Humbly Presented, Happy Jack SASS 20451 Life Patron Regulator CAS was a lot different when WBAS was started. Aerial SG targets, Reloads on the clock for pistols and rifles, and various more difficult target engagements were common even at the biggest matches (regionals, EOT) so for most CAS shooters moving to WBAS was a lot easier than today. Edited August 19 by Happy Jack 3 5 Quote
Frederick Jackson Turner Posted August 18 Posted August 18 With all due respect to the folks who got this ball rolling - a lot of people did complain about the old EoT matches. I appreciate all that was done to get this WB thing going - I actually enjoy it more than CAS (I know - Sacrilege!) (and I don't want to dumb down WB to the point of silliness, either!)- but I was on the ground, shot the matches, did pretty well, - and heard a lot of complaining. I heard it again, at the 2025 EoT WB match. No match is ever going to make everyone happy (well, maybe except the European championships, but they add a little bit more post-game liquor to the proceedings...) - but only one clean shooter marks a pretty tough match. To keep the people coming back is a big part of the challenge of SASS. Like politics, the best you can hope for is to make MOST of the people happy, most of the time. Then, the audience will let you know. And, judging from the grumbles I heard, they may want to tweak the match a bit. I hope they do; I'll shoot the match however it is configured - but I want the sport to survive and thrive, as well. Cheers, FJT 2 1 Quote
Joe Lafives 5481L Posted August 25 Posted August 25 On 8/15/2025 at 9:33 PM, Flying W Ramrod said: Nothing if you shoot H3G. Ramrod: That kind of avoids the question. Can you be more specific? Wild Bunch has adapted quite a bit over the last 15 years or so. All in keeping with the idea of attempting to make it enjoyable and yet different than CAS which has adapted significantly in its 40+ year history. I have a video of EOT from 1992 and its unrecognizable with what is shot today. I'm not shooting much anymore but I do feel a real answer to the question asked is reasonable. 1 Quote
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