Buckshot Bear Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 New Starline .45acp Brass - Is it necessary to resize? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUSTY BODDAMS Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Yes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Semi-autos and pumps REALLY require all cases being proper size, since chambering is usually pretty weak (compared to some other actions). Last I looked at a 1911, it's a semi-auto. 😄 good luck, GJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 Thanks fella's can't get the necessary Dillon .45acp gear to load on my 650 so I'll be using my single stage press and wondered if I could cut down on a stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Brown Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 If you have a chamber gage just check the new brass in it. You can also use the barrel chamber. If it fits you should not need to run it through a sizing die. Then load 7 or so - shoot and if it works no sizing required. JB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I have seen Starline's published recommendations for sizing all their brass before loading it. It is almost always VIBRATED CLEAN after drawing and forming, and then SHIPPED at some point, and they have no control over how much damage is done by either of those operations. Besides, checking empty brass in a loaded-round gauge requires a "poking out" stick be used on every case checked, so it is slower than checking loaded rounds. good luck, GJ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Spade Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Also know that you will need to use some lube on new brass. I tried to run some new starline the other day and it was going through the sizing die and hanging on the powder funnel so bad I hurt my arm. A little shot of lube and they ran fine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) Yeah, Starline's Cowboy .45 Special brass is notoriously hard to get off the Dillon powder through expander button. I would expect the same with .45 auto. But don't have personal experience with it, as I have never bought new Starline .45 auto cases. To paraphrase a certain Command Sgt Major Plumley of the 82nd Airborne and 7th Cav, "If it gets to the point that I need a bunch of .45 cases, there will be lots laying on the ground" That's where I found a lot of mine. And some forums, too. good luck, GJ Edited March 1 by Garrison Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 On 2/22/2023 at 1:48 PM, Jack Spade said: Also know that you will need to use some lube on new brass. I tried to run some new starline the other day and it was going through the sizing die and hanging on the powder funnel so bad I hurt my arm. A little shot of lube and they ran fine. I've had my XL650 for 16-18 years now when I added it as well to my Lyman Turret and Lee single stage press and up until a year ago I never used any lube with any press. After reading about One Shot on the Wire of folks recommending it and trying it out.....WOW I will never resize without it! I honestly can't believe how much stress it's taken off my shoulder, elbow and wrist. Told many folks in my club and those that listened and gave it a go are now also believers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equanimous Phil Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 4 hours ago, Buckshot Bear said: After reading about One Shot on the Wire of folks recommending it and trying it out.....WOW I will never resize without it! Sounds interesting! I started reloading last year and never used any lube yet. I only make .45 Colt (so far) on a 550. How do you use/apply the One Shot when, for example, loading a couple hundreds of rounds? Maybe I order some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 The spray can form can be sprayed lightly over a pan/box one layer deep with cases. Let dry a minute, then load. Don't even have to wipe any off before dropping powder. A can lasts me over 2500 pistol cartridges. good luck, GJ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon KC Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Even with carbide dies, One Shot makes running brass much easier. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 On 2/23/2023 at 3:14 AM, Garrison Joe said: The spray can form can be sprayed lightly over a pan/box one layer deep with cases. Let dry a minute, then load. Don't even have to wipe any off before dropping powder. A can lasts me over 2500 pistol cartridges. good luck, GJ Do find One Shot to work better than Dillon lube or the homemade version? I've been using a 1:12 mix of 98% alch. & Liquid lanolin. One bottle lasts for ages and seems similar to the Dillon Lube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Never tried an alternative for One Shot. Like the fact I don't have to wipe it off after sizing. Tried finding real lanolin a couple of times for bullet lube recipes and never could, so certainly would not try to make case lube. One Shot is not good enough for heavy resizing or reforming, though. For that, Hornady has a paste/gel type lube that is very nice. Don't use enough of either product to worry about it's cost, but glad I can get a resupply in just a couple of days from several on-line vendors, and usually even Sportsman's Warehouse. good luck, GJ 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 17 hours ago, Garrison Joe said: Never tried an alternative for One Shot. Like the fact I don't have to wipe it off after sizing. Tried finding real lanolin a couple of times for bullet lube recipes and never could, so certainly would not try to make case lube. One Shot is not good enough for heavy resizing or reforming, though. For that, Hornady has a paste/gel type lube that is very nice. Don't use enough of either product to worry about it's cost, but glad I can get a resupply in just a couple of days from several on-line vendors, and usually even Sportsman's Warehouse. good luck, GJ If you need again, it's available on Amazon. Abt. $10 IIRC. And use HEET in the red bottle for alcohol. An ounce of lanolin to a 12oz. bottle of HEET. I do run the loaded round in a tumbler with corn cob and a little mineral spirits to clean it off. It really doesn't leave much residue however. I'm going to give One Shot a try as well before I mix up more lanolin!! Thanks GJ for your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cass Vickers Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Is there any reason to worry about One Shot wetting powder and causing it to clump or fail to ignite? How long do you let it dry before charging the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 It will dry in a minute, as said before. Never had a problem with it dampening powder. Just make sure your cases are laying over, not standing up on the base so as to collect a bunch of spray mist. All you need is a LIGHT spray. A mist. good luck, GJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cass Vickers Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 17 minutes ago, Garrison Joe said: It will dry in a minute, as said before. Never had a problem with it dampening powder. Just make sure your cases are laying over, not standing up on the base so as to collect a bunch of spray mist. All you need is a LIGHT spray. A mist. good luck, GJ Thank you, GJ. I prize your sage advice and will follow it henceforth. And if I sprayed 100 pieces of new Starline brass standing up in a tray (as demonstrated in sundry YouTube vids), what do you recommend for those pieces? Cass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 (edited) Kinda what you get for watching UTubes from folks who won't read instructions, huh? Let dry over night, should be fine. Take a paper towel "patch" piece, push down into a case or two with a q-tip and see if it comes up damp. If not, you're good. good luck, GJ Edited February 26 by Garrison Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cass Vickers Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, Garrison Joe said: Kinda what you get for watching UTubes from folks who won't read instructions, huh? Let dry over night, should be fine. Take a paper towel "patch" piece, push down into a case or two with a q-tip and see if it comes up damp. If not, you're good. good luck, GJ Thx, friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holloman Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I may be the odd man out here, but I run new Starline brass through my Hornady case check "plunk" gage and never have one that needed resizing. I load on a single stage RCBS press with Lee dies, including a Lee Factory resizing die, and never have had a round loaded with a Starline case fail to pass a second plunk test (I test every round before loading into a magazine.) Can't say the same for Winchester brass. And if a round passes the final plunk test, I have never had one fail to chamber and fire properly in my Springfield Garrison. This is loading both cast 230 grain coated bullets and FMJ 230 gr. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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