Allie Mo

Good discussion.

 

These situations are likely to arise with the pistol especially now that the rule limiting the number of rounds that can be loaded in a magazine has been eliminated.

 

Just a note, the rule was not eliminated; it was changed to the following. "Magazines must be standard length and cannot hold more than eight rounds."

Hi HPH,

 

Let me explain illegally acquired ammo as it could apply here. This would not be illegally acquired as the magazine was a legal instrument (unless it did not meet the definition of a legal magazine) to carry ammo to the line, hat bands with ammo loops are not a legal means to carry ammo. It the shooter loaded from his hat or an illegal magazine it would be illegally acquired.

 

Regards,

 

Allie

 

Hi Folks,

 

I just saw this thread. See my thread on Tactical Reloads. It seems, like Happy Jack said, TRs may be allowed and safe; but are not always an advantage.

 

I didn't try it as I hadn't practiced it. However, several more experienced shooters than I tried it and were not very successful (meaning without an oops by the shooters or the counters). I saw shooters miscount and get a P, miscount and leave a live round in a magazine, AD, and move with the slide forward. Not only that, the pause between shot 6 and 7 confused the spotters. So, I think I will use the KISS method and not attempt TRs.

 

Regards,

 

Allie

can confuse the shooters and counters. :o

 

Things observed at the 2018 CA State WBAS match.

Confused Shooter: After tactical reload fired one and walked with slide forward.

Confused Counters: Unsure what happened with delay in firing seventh shot. Happened several times.

Confused Shooter and Counter: Shooter did not place second round of DT after tactical reload and engaged next target instead, then finished with one live round remaining. Two counters called it correctly; one counter and TO thought shooter was clean.  Shooter cleared it up by showing us he had a live round remaining.

 

This was my first match since the okay of tactical reloads. So, one might think I had a problem with it. I'm not sure that was the case. I do think it would get easier as they are encountered more frequently.

 

I'd like to know if others have had problems and if they diminished with frequency of observation of TRs.

 

Regards,

 

Allie Mo

 

PS I did not do any TRs. I didn't have any problems counting to seven. I was worried about that. The nature of the scenarios helped with that. Also, the majority of stages had seven rifle, which was helpful.

 

PPS I was exhausted. This is not a sport that you can drop for eight months then shoot for three days.

 

Thanks Boggus and Joe!

Thanks to everyone. Apparently I need a refresher course!

 

Tully

 

I'll be there with you!

OMG!

 

These changes are overwhelming to me. I haven't touched my 1911 since August and signed up for State next month.

 

I hope my question makes sense or is reasonable based on the rule change. If my slide doesn't stay open, is it okay to open it before moving as I would have with the old rule?

 

Thank you,

 

Allie

I love shooting my rifle. I know I will hit something.  ;)

Anyone who answered with two words gets a gold star, even if I disagree with you.  ;)

Hi Folks,

 

I'd like to know how many of you would like to make Total Time the official WBAS Scoring at EOT.  Please start another thread for discussion and just stick to whether you'd like that or not.

 

I've had an ear full of comments against the current WBAS scoring method.

 

Thanks,

 

Allie

 

PS I vote for Total Time scoring.

So tell me is it true that someone with a SDQ and was third in category won overall for their gender?  How is that fair?

What is the Senior Category, if not for us old folks?

Total Time Scoring please.

 

I don't really care if we are laughed at.

 

At least with total time, a person who is third in their category with a SDQ, can't be first overall. I heard that happened at EOT.

 

Regards,

 

Allie

Hi 40!

 

If I were "calling the shots" (pun intended) and wanted to grow WBAS, I would have a category where a semi-auto pistol was allowed at SASS matches.  :o Basically, it would be SASS with a semi-auto pistol. You could be flexible about the rifle caliber too. (Don't tell HJ that I wrote this. ;) )

 

We have a dedicated WBAS club at my home venue. There are several WBAS shooters who never shoot SASS and one who sold his SASS guns and only shoots WBAS, IDPA...

 

If this category brought in sufficient new shooters, maybe some day, you could have a dedicated by-the-rules WBAS club.

 

Regards,

 

AM

 

Hi Big Bear,

 

It was so nice to have met you.

 

I told you that you had a good posse. I'm glad to hear I was right.

 

See you down the trail!

 

Allie Mo

 

PS Spread the word and get more of the So. CA folks to come up here.

 

PPS We call ourselves, all six clubs combined Diamond Dick's Cowboy Town. California Gunslingers is just the name of our Website

You're not old enough to shoot that category by at least twenty years!

 

I think I love you!  ;)

Hee hee,

 

The Happy: I'm the new CA State Senior Modern Lady WBAS Champion.

The Sad: I was the only one in the category.

The Sad: As usual, I was last.

The Happy: I didn't get any Ps.

The Sad: I didn't clean any stages.

The Happy: My posse was really fun!

 

Yay! The "happies" win! I'm a winner (in case of a tie, one's attitude is the tie breaker, IMO).  ;)

Wild Bunch is a takeoff on a movie.  Maybe in the distant future there will be a game called " Untouchables" based on the TV series.

My closet is full; it can't stand another costumed shooting sport.  ;)

Hi Lone Dog and Other Folks,

 

The SASS Forums have undergone a massive upgrade and many previous problems have been fixed.

 

Check it out!

 

Allie

Amen to the Barney Fife magazine!

 

Shortly after starting WBAS, I attended Krazy Kurt's (or is it Crazy Curt...) class at the SASS Convention. He seemed to really know his stuff and recommended the BF magazine, so I started carrying one. I have used it numerous times!

Hi Lone Dog,

 

I haven't been here in a while and just saw this.

 

I found where you were bumped on the Error Logs on the day you started this thread. I found that IP address on the ban list with an * (70.195.192.*) instead of the final node, labeled SPAM. That means all posts coming from that provider in that location are bumped as spam. I found it belongs to Verizon and have deleted it from the ban list.

 

Also, I see you have logged on from 15 different IP addresses since Jan. 21. That one shows as being in the middle of the Trinity River in downtown Dallas, between Singleton Blvd. and W. Main St. LOL! It is listed as having SPAMmers by Honey Pot. The forum uses Honey Pot to weed out SPAMmers. That may be how it got flagged. If we get SPAM from it again, I may need ban it and have you not log on from near there so that IP address is not used.

 

If this is Greek to you, it may be helpful to jog my memory if we start getting SPAM from there. :-)

 

Regards,

 

Allie

Hi Folks,

 

Occasionally, we have that problem on the SASS Forums. It sometimes occurs when you use special characters in a title or copy and paste text from another source. The last time it happened, the tech said to right click and choose copy as plain text. That worked for the poster.

 

I hope that helps.

 

Allie

Besides at EoT and maybe Winter Range, are there any ever WB costume contests at State or Regional level matches? I know there are some GREAT CAS costumes that the men and ladies wear and is certainly part of the cowboy shooting fun for a lot of us. What about Wild Bunch?

 

What costume might win or place or be recognized? Accurate representation of an early Army soldier? Anything else interesting?

 

Just curious.

 

Thanks.

We do a costume contest at the CA State WBAS Match. Unfortunately, I do the judging and have been unable to find an experienced Military costumer to help me. Hint Hint! Love to see Happy Jack or Capt. George Baylor show up and help. Copper Queen would be VERY WELCOME to help with the SASS judging. BTW, I have begged them to come.

 

Regards,

 

Allie Mo

PPS It would be helpful to use the same ejected round logic as PWB provided for an ejected rifle round, rather than having a different call for WBAS.

 

That's exactly what applies in WB too.  Makes it easy!  ;D

 

Thanks for the reply Joe!

 

I think I misread some of the responses!  :-[

PPS The WB RO manual, p. 20, has, under misses, "each unfired round." This shooter did not fire a round at the last black target. Otherwise, the sequence was correct.