Goody
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Cleaned it up a bit for you. Sounds like another fun side match. Just one more reason for someone to play!
One thing I might mention. Back before there were official rules for Wild Bunch and we ran our own version it was wide open as to what could be shot, so long as the design was pre 1917. We wrote in the caveat that it was the competitors responsibility to prove a gun or design fit into the time frame. This was just in case someone drug something out that no one knew anything about.
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POP GUN side match
Pocket Pistol rules and guidelines
Legal pop guns are of the type of pistol manufactured 1945 or earlier. This not the date of manufacture of a particular pistol but the original version date, therefore a Walther pp could of been manufactured in 1939 or 1979 and be legal for pop. There are many pistols that are legal for this side match but the perfect example would be the 1903 colt hammerless. An early manufactured pistol that falls perfectly into the correct time frame, accurate and reliable. All legal pistols must be centerfire. Please note a few examples below and note this is not all inclusive.
Colt 1903 and 1908 hammerless, colt vest pocket 25 Walther PP or PPK, Walther vest pocket 25, Sauer 32, Ruby 32, 1900 FN browning, 1907 Savage 32/380, Remington hammerless, Ortgies 32, Beretta 1935, Mauser 1910, MAB 32 or 25, Llama mini 1911 in 32 or 380, Dreyse 1907 32, Frommer Stop 1910, Sauer 38H, Mauser HSC.
General rules and guide
POP guns fit in your pocket
Caliber not greater than 380
Centerfire only 25, 32, 380
Ww2 design cutoff date
Lead bullets only
Pistols may not be externally modified except aftermarket non target grips are allowed along with plating, bluing or engraving as cosmetic enhancements.
Procedures
Magazines may be loaded any time prior to shooting time.
Magazine remains out of pistol until load and make ready call given by T.O.
Starting position is empty chamber magazine inserted. Scenario may call for pistol laying on table or in hand.
Stage finish under T.O. Direction remove magazine hold open slide if no slide stop to show clear, lower slide, dry fire pistol. Pistol is now safe and may be safely carried to storage area.
Typical stage: 6 or 7 shot Nevada sweep on 3 targets distance 5 to 9 yards
6 or 7 shot with double tap on 3 targets 1 on center.
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Boggus
I dug around and looked through several dozen old magazines and books. I couldn't find that article, but will continue to look as I go through things.
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I'll dig around and see if I can find it. I'd post here but copyright laws would probably prevent it? Maybe if I gave credit to the book/author?
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I have an article in an old pistolsmithing book at home somewhere. It is all about how to modify the magazines, reshaping the lips and gives dimensions on building a die to hammer the lips back into shape over. This was published early 70's IIRC, so before too much aftermarket stuff was available, mostly GI mags.
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23 shots for 20 targets. Rotating. In layers. :o
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Here's a great site with, as Ed McMahon would say, "Everything you could possibly want to know concerning the Model 8/81. Including the fact that it was one of the arsenal used in the ambush of Bonnie and Clyde by Frank Hamer and his posse. http://thegreatmodel8.remingtonsociety.com/?page_id=434
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Just a quick note to congratulate Captain Sam Evans (Travis Bursey, Goathead the younger) on his Category win in WBM at Winter Range 2017. Even bigger attaboy for besting the field and taking the overall win, with Boggus Deal right behind. Looks like it was close the entire match, which I'm sure made for extra excitement. SALUTE!!!!!!
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Mouthy SOB, ain't ya :o :o! Happy New Year to you, too! ;D
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Price ain't necessarily the issue, simply finding one. I'd buy a junker (at junker prices) & fix it, but seems the ones I see, they want "new, unfired" prices for junk.
Have you tried looking at Ammo Depot? I haven't been in there in a while, but he used to have many surplus Nagants and Mausers of various sorts. Just down the road from you a half mile off 30, between Rockwall and Greenville.
http://www.ammodepottx.com/firearms--optics.html#sthash.TQz0A1kJ.dpbs
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I tried shooting a 16 inch 73 carbine for a while. I found myself swinging past the targets due to the lightweight of the gun. If you continue to shoot a 20 or 24 inch heavy barrel in CAS I think your timing would be all off on both. If it were me I would treasure the 24 inch Marlin you have and save your money for another 1911. ;D
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Minor safety, why would you think otherwise?
All reloads shall be from slide lock, no “tactical reloads.” You may not reload the
pistol with a round in the chamber. (MSV) You may NOT reload a single round in
the 1911 by placing it in the chamber and then closing the slide. (MSV) All
ammunition must be loaded from a magazine. All reloads shall be from slide lock.
(Failure to do so, MSV) THE ONLY EXCEPTION to the slide-lock rule is if after
firing all the rounds in the magazine the slide lock fails and the shooter needs to
reload without moving, one may do so without locking the slide back before
inserting the new magazine
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Did the gun cycle with a squib???
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Hey LD, see this post for info on HooDoo Brown. He has a loading service, shoots with us monthly, is a BAMM competitor and knows what you need,
http://sassnet.com/wildbunch/forum/index.php?topic=1787.msg12866#msg12866
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Found a thread talking about them on 1911 Forum. Seems they were the first stainless mags, around 78 -79.
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Well, ain't that a peach!
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I just got a notice from Cabelas that they have bulk ammo on sale. They have 45acp reloads, all lead, 230gr. 300 rounds for $120 and 600 for $250. You get one dry box with each 300 rounds. They claim 830 fps, a 190.9 PF. It shows in stock at this time. If you don't load your own this would be a way to shoot until you decide to load.
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I'll say it again. YOU ARE MY HERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reference Evil Roy's statement from the original post.
"For this match you can shoot fmj ammo. I am bringing targets which will withstand the hits."
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Boggus, your right but old habits are lasting ... I shot pumps from the age of 10 and the safety always went on before loading my Ithaca 37's after pulling the trigger
I may be crazy (it's never been documented!), but I think my model 12's cycle better if I hold the trigger down while closing the action. All 4 of mine are stock, in that no safeties have been removed. So when cycling the action for the first shot on the line you have to remember to have forward pressure on the slidefirst, then the action will cycle. When I hold the trigger while closing the action at the loading table this condition goes away. Am I nuts?
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Those are my thoughts as well, but before I even consider plopping down $850 I would want to be sure. Plus if the question were to come up with another having one it's nice to have a correct answer.
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Just wondering, would this gun be legal for WB? Specifically, would the extra cuts in the slide make it illegal? Good looking gun, I would assume it shoots as they don't make any dogs.
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