Why would they not be the same?

Ive been reading old posts on loading 45ACP.  I don’t WB yet but want to load to be compliant.  I have a brand new Ruger SR1911 (won at the CT Bushwackers Buzzard Boil) so I need to get comfortable with this platform before showing up at a match.

I’m setting up to reload, just bulge busted 1600 cases that I need sort by HS (Discarding Amerc) and have a lot of Titegroup, and a couple pounds of W231 so not really wanting to buy more powder right now.
 

 I also have two coated .4515-.4520 cast bullet profiles.  The one on the left is my 225-229 grain (I haven’t sorted by weight yet) and the one on the right is a 200grn HT coated commercial bullet.  It seems like there is no benefit of using the lighter weight bullet due to the 150 PF min so I’m inclined to go with the heavier bullet since they are essentially free to me.

Relative to powder choice it seems like a 4.0-4.2 grn TiteGroup load or 5.0grn w231 load would meet the min Power Factor.  Hodgdon lists the OAL at 1.20” for a 230 grn LRN.

I’ve seen the good advice to only load a few at a time until i find what works best…

so anything else I should consider here?  Anyone loading for an SR1911 and can share anything about OAL issues I should know about?

JFN

SP_vs_LP.pdf

I use Tite Group for almost everything

I reload 200 gr RNFP Hi-Tec coated bullets.  20" barrel 1873 rifle.

How much Tite Group will result in muzzle velocity of >750fps but <800fps?

Been reloading for close to 40 years and have a question concerning shotgun loads.

First question (buried in here somewhere):

Have quite a few pounds of Titewad left. The loads used in my past have been with 15.2gns (Titewad) and a 3/4oz lead load using Claybuster 3/4oz wads. These rounds are starting now to hurt after my shoulder is being slammed with the 6 rounds of WB Shooting. So I loaded some 3/4oz loads with 14.7gns of Titewad and got a velocity of 1105fps on the chrono. My goal to get a load to under 1000fps. I have bushings for my MEC 9000 that will drop 12.6gns and 11.6gns of Titewad. My question(s) centers around this: Other than using the chronograph to determine velocity how does a back yard reloader determine the pressure of these small loads? I guess I don't wish to get a load that shoots lower that is dangerous. How is that determined or am I just a 'worry wart'??

Second Question (again buried in here somewhere):

A number of years ago swapped out my tuned main springs on my two Uberti 73 WInchesters with coil main springs. Over the past year the coil springs have started to fail. The springs have been replaced along the way over those years, however have noticed that new springs ordered seem to start failing in just a few months. Have added washers to the coil springs to make them work, but it just isn't working like the old days. Last winter, while at EoT and friend of mine schooled me on grinding out and polishing flat springs. One of the Winchesters was was refitted with a 'tuned flat spring' and just like the old days, it has given me 'zero' problems. This morning swapped out the second rifle from coil to flat main spring. I have three guns that have flat springs. Two 38/357 rifles and a 45LC rifle. The 45LC rifle came with a tuned flat spring. I measured the trigger pull on all three this morning. The two 38's have have trigger pulls of 1lb 10oz and 2lb 6oz. The tricked out 45 has a pull of 2lb 5oz. 

The 1lb 10oz rifle easily sets off Winchester Primers. Have not tested the other 38 to see if it sets off the Winchester Primers (it's cold outside right now). The 45LC uses only Federal Primers with no issue. 

Finally the second question. It is easy to determine the trigger pull. Now is there ANY correlation between the trigger pull stiffness and the force of the hammer striking the firing pin??? Don't think there is a real answer to that question, so that's why asking others that are much smarter and proficient and this than I ever hope to be.

Thanks for reading all.  Merry Christmas to all of you and a Happy New Year. 

J.J. 

Anyone using Unique for their WB loads.

The loads I've been finding in the load manuals is way hotter than needed.

As in  PF of 199 for  45 ACP using 230's

and the lowest load 45 Colt 250 gr. bullet out of a 7 1/2 vaquero was PF of 235.

I know there are better powder choices so lets not go there.

I'm trying to help out one of my shooters who is new to reloading and bought an old red round can of Unique at a gun show when another shooter said to him "you really need to buy that"

Marshal Stone

A thread over on the other wire got me looking into Alliant Extra-Lite for multiple calibers. I'm lazy, unorganized, cheap as hell, and I can't leave good enough alone, so I wanna fix what ain't broke and try a single powder to load most of my ammo at reduced rates.

Based on some boozy research, here's what I'm going to start with:

.38 SPL - 1.8gn behind 105gn TCFP (I can hear the farts now)

.45 Auto - 3.4gn behind 230gn RN

.45 Colt - 3.0gn (?) behind 205gn RNFP (This is a throw-the-dart guess, so we'll see what happens. Squib rod has fallen in and is awaiting orders)

12ga - 9.2gn behind whatever wad and shot I can cram in there

For reference, here are my current proven loads (same projectiles as above):

.38 SPL - 3.0gn Titegroup (~80PF)

.45 Auto - 4.0gn WST (~170PF)

.45 Colt - 5.2gn Titegroup (~170PF)

12ga -- Ain't nobody got time to load 12ga

Alliant doesn't publish any data for this powder aside from 12ga, so it will be an adventure. This stuff supposedly burns faster than Clays and is fairly bulky.

I'll update with my findings, but it may take some time -- see note above about being lazy.

Cheers, Pardners.

Blackfoot

TIA

Sgt Hochbauer

Thanks.

I currently load WST and have loaded Clays for my 200gr LSWC 45acp.

Well, I'm out of WST and about out of Clays, which I also use for my WB shotgun.

I have a full 9oz of TB but I think that will be my backup plan.

No one around here has either powder.  So as I call around I'd like to check stock on other options.

So what should I consider buying? Unique?  what else?

I am looking for a common powder to use for both that meets WB specs.

200grn bullets in 45 and maybe the same for 44.

Thanks for any feedback.

OkD

i bought a wilson combat barrel for my iver johnson 1911 and it has a very tight chamber. i cant get a crimp any tighter so those two brands of brass are junk now

Just installed the conversion kit and dies, not getting the greatest reliability in the final Dillon crimp die as some rounds feel tight in the Dillon case gauge whilst others plop in and fall right out.

Replaces the third Dillon crimp die with a Lee Factory crimp die and getting the results that I want, but wondering why the Dillon crimp die isn't working as well (rather use the Dillon die) is there something that I haven't done right setting it up? Any hints? Should the Dillon crimp die be working so that every completed round plunks in and slides out of the Dillon case gauge with ease?

Thanks in advance.

What set of components seem to work well for successful reloading in order to enhance good operation of the Model 12.

Thanks.

TIA

Hochbauer